[PRCo] Re: Fwd: Re: pat__service__cuts__2007.01.23-changed to 2/1/07

[Fred Schneider]

Good question Rich.   My instincts tell me that the parking lot  
people are defending nothing.   That the overwhelming majority of the  
people using transit to come to an airport are support staff, retail  
clerks, and airline employees and the airport would no doubt have to  
provide parking spaces free for them.   It's the railfans and serious  
travelers ... the Fred Schneiders, the Phil Craigs, the Derrick  
Brashears, the Rick Steves who would understand how to use transit in  
conjunction with a plane and they probably account for less than 1  
percent of the air tickets sold.   Just a guess.

Going to Puerto Rico last month I'll

On Feb 7, 2007, at 11:02 PM, Richard Allman wrote:

> anyone have any idea re: what %age of airport riders in the cities  
> w/ direct
> rail service are airport and airline employees? Intuitively, seems  
> like a
> more realistic travel option for those unencumbered by luggage.  
> Just  a
> thought! I know for example that in Boston and Washington National 
> (alright
> Reagan International) many of those boarding or alighting from  
> trains look
> and dress like support staff for the airport. Just a thought and  
> out-loud
> inquiry...RICH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Swindler" <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Cc: <Jack.May at americomm.net>; <philgcraig204 at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:44 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Fwd: Re: pat__service__cuts__2007.01.23-changed to
> 2/1/07
>
>
>>
>>
>> Again forgot to check first.
>>
>> Heading towards Trenton, looks like a fixed $5.50 surcharge for  
>> going to
>> airport.  And off-peak fares not available.
>>
>> Newark-Trenton  $8.50
>> Airport-Trenton  $14
>>
>> Going to New York City - it is proportional (under the soaking of  
>> anyone
>> going to NYC)
>>
>> Airport-Newark $7.50
>> Elizabeth-Newark $2
>>
>> Airport-NYC  $14
>> Elizabeth-NYC $5
>>
>>
>> As for going to NYC:  airport-NYC is $14
>> airport-Newark $7.50 + Newark-NYC $3.75 or $11.25 total with two  
>> tickets
>>
>> Is it worth the trouble saving $2.75?  probably not; but it's just  
>> the
>> principal.
>>
>>
>> And it looks like NJ transit is in the collection business for the  
>> $5.50
>> surcharge at the airport train station.
>>
>>
>>
>> AirTrain Newark
>>
>> Free inside the airport!
>> All AirTrain rides within the airport are free, so if you only use
>> AirTrain
>> to connect between the airline terminals, parking, hotel shuttle and
>> rental
>> car facilities, no ticket is required.
>> How to buy a ticket?
>> Buy a NJ TRANSIT® or Amtrak® ticket to or from Newark Liberty
>> International
>> Airport Train Station, and that ticket covers both the NJ TRANSIT or
>> Amtrak
>> portion of your ride as well as the AirTrain portion. You must use  
>> the
>> ticket twice -- regardless of which direction you're traveling.  
>> You'll
>> need
>> to show the ticket to the conductor on the NJ TRANSIT or Amtrak  
>> train, and
>> you'll need the ticket to pass through the fareline at Newark Liberty
>> International Airport Train Station. So don't forget to take the  
>> ticket
>> with
>> you.
>> If you already have a NJ TRANSIT or Amtrak ticket, including a  
>> commuter
>> weekly or monthly ticket, to a destination past the Newark Liberty
>> International Airport Train Station, you may use it to get to or  
>> from the
>> Newark Liberty International Airport Train Station. However, you  
>> will also
>> need to purchase a separate $5.50 NJ TRANSIT ticket at the Newark  
>> Liberty
>> International Airport Train Station from ticket machines located  
>> within
>> the
>> station.
>> Where to purchase NJ Transit tickets:
>> Ticket machines located at the entrance to AirTrain stations in each
>> airline
>> terminal.
>> Ticket machines located at Newark Liberty International Airport Train
>> Station.
>> NJ Transit ticket agents or ticket machines located at most NJ  
>> Transit
>> stations.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>>> Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>> Subject: [PRCo] Fwd: Re: pat__service__cuts__2007.01.23-changed  
>>> to 2/1/07
>>> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 12:06:17 -0500
>>>
>>> Here are Jack May's comments on the Newark Airport service.
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>> I don't know what the taxi rules are, but there is no question in
>>>> my mind
>>>> that parking and taxi revenues are being protected by having such a
>>>> high
>>>> fare.
>>>>
>>>> As far as the information from the "co-worker," he is correct about
>>>> the lack
>>>> of off-peak tickets and conceptually correct in saying that  
>>>> there are
>>>> faregates that require a ticket.  He is wrong about the charge  
>>>> being
>>>> proportional to the distance.  It is only higher for those buying
>>>> New York
>>>> tickets.  However, you can buy a $5.00 magnetic ticket at a vending
>>>> machine
>>>> alongside the fare gates.  So, if you buy an Elizabeth ticket from
>>>> New York,
>>>> Newark, a vending machine or a conductor, you can pay the $5.00
>>>> monorail
>>>> charge at the airport station and then reach the terminals.  I
>>>> explained
>>>> that in an earlier email.
>>>>
>>>> Jack
>>>
>>>
>>
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