[PRCo] Re: Fwd: Re: pat__service__cuts__2007.01.23-changed to 2/1/07

[Richard Allman]

that's my impression; and how could I forget O'Hare and Midway, where that 
is clearly the case.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:53 AM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Fwd: Re: pat__service__cuts__2007.01.23-changed to 
2/1/07


> Good question Rich.   My instincts tell me that the parking lot
> people are defending nothing.   That the overwhelming majority of the
> people using transit to come to an airport are support staff, retail
> clerks, and airline employees and the airport would no doubt have to
> provide parking spaces free for them.   It's the railfans and serious
> travelers ... the Fred Schneiders, the Phil Craigs, the Derrick
> Brashears, the Rick Steves who would understand how to use transit in
> conjunction with a plane and they probably account for less than 1
> percent of the air tickets sold.   Just a guess.
>
> Going to Puerto Rico last month I'll
>
> On Feb 7, 2007, at 11:02 PM, Richard Allman wrote:
>
>> anyone have any idea re: what %age of airport riders in the cities
>> w/ direct
>> rail service are airport and airline employees? Intuitively, seems
>> like a
>> more realistic travel option for those unencumbered by luggage.
>> Just  a
>> thought! I know for example that in Boston and Washington National
>> (alright
>> Reagan International) many of those boarding or alighting from
>> trains look
>> and dress like support staff for the airport. Just a thought and
>> out-loud
>> inquiry...RICH
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Swindler" <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>> Cc: <Jack.May at americomm.net>; <philgcraig204 at yahoo.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:44 PM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Fwd: Re: pat__service__cuts__2007.01.23-changed to
>> 2/1/07
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Again forgot to check first.
>>>
>>> Heading towards Trenton, looks like a fixed $5.50 surcharge for
>>> going to
>>> airport.  And off-peak fares not available.
>>>
>>> Newark-Trenton  $8.50
>>> Airport-Trenton  $14
>>>
>>> Going to New York City - it is proportional (under the soaking of
>>> anyone
>>> going to NYC)
>>>
>>> Airport-Newark $7.50
>>> Elizabeth-Newark $2
>>>
>>> Airport-NYC  $14
>>> Elizabeth-NYC $5
>>>
>>>
>>> As for going to NYC:  airport-NYC is $14
>>> airport-Newark $7.50 + Newark-NYC $3.75 or $11.25 total with two
>>> tickets
>>>
>>> Is it worth the trouble saving $2.75?  probably not; but it's just
>>> the
>>> principal.
>>>
>>>
>>> And it looks like NJ transit is in the collection business for the
>>> $5.50
>>> surcharge at the airport train station.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> AirTrain Newark
>>>
>>> Free inside the airport!
>>> All AirTrain rides within the airport are free, so if you only use
>>> AirTrain
>>> to connect between the airline terminals, parking, hotel shuttle and
>>> rental
>>> car facilities, no ticket is required.
>>> How to buy a ticket?
>>> Buy a NJ TRANSIT® or Amtrak® ticket to or from Newark Liberty
>>> International
>>> Airport Train Station, and that ticket covers both the NJ TRANSIT or
>>> Amtrak
>>> portion of your ride as well as the AirTrain portion. You must use
>>> the
>>> ticket twice -- regardless of which direction you're traveling.
>>> You'll
>>> need
>>> to show the ticket to the conductor on the NJ TRANSIT or Amtrak
>>> train, and
>>> you'll need the ticket to pass through the fareline at Newark Liberty
>>> International Airport Train Station. So don't forget to take the
>>> ticket
>>> with
>>> you.
>>> If you already have a NJ TRANSIT or Amtrak ticket, including a
>>> commuter
>>> weekly or monthly ticket, to a destination past the Newark Liberty
>>> International Airport Train Station, you may use it to get to or
>>> from the
>>> Newark Liberty International Airport Train Station. However, you
>>> will also
>>> need to purchase a separate $5.50 NJ TRANSIT ticket at the Newark
>>> Liberty
>>> International Airport Train Station from ticket machines located
>>> within
>>> the
>>> station.
>>> Where to purchase NJ Transit tickets:
>>> Ticket machines located at the entrance to AirTrain stations in each
>>> airline
>>> terminal.
>>> Ticket machines located at Newark Liberty International Airport Train
>>> Station.
>>> NJ Transit ticket agents or ticket machines located at most NJ
>>> Transit
>>> stations.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>>>> Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Fwd: Re: pat__service__cuts__2007.01.23-changed
>>>> to 2/1/07
>>>> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 12:06:17 -0500
>>>>
>>>> Here are Jack May's comments on the Newark Airport service.
>>>>
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't know what the taxi rules are, but there is no question in
>>>>> my mind
>>>>> that parking and taxi revenues are being protected by having such a
>>>>> high
>>>>> fare.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as the information from the "co-worker," he is correct about
>>>>> the lack
>>>>> of off-peak tickets and conceptually correct in saying that
>>>>> there are
>>>>> faregates that require a ticket.  He is wrong about the charge
>>>>> being
>>>>> proportional to the distance.  It is only higher for those buying
>>>>> New York
>>>>> tickets.  However, you can buy a $5.00 magnetic ticket at a vending
>>>>> machine
>>>>> alongside the fare gates.  So, if you buy an Elizabeth ticket from
>>>>> New York,
>>>>> Newark, a vending machine or a conductor, you can pay the $5.00
>>>>> monorail
>>>>> charge at the airport station and then reach the terminals.  I
>>>>> explained
>>>>> that in an earlier email.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jack
>>>>
>>>>
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