[PRCo] Re: BTC

[Fred Schneider]

The first image is at Belvidere Loop in northwest Baltimore, a block  
from Belvedere Carhouse.  It shows (left to right) one of the 1937  
St. Louis PCCs, a 1941 Pullman, and a 1930 Brill - Westinghouse Peter  
Witt.   To the best of our knowledge, United Railways did pay  
royalties to Peter Witt to use his patented two-man fare collection  
system.   However, the conductors only stayed on the cars long enough  
to explain to the passengers how the treadles at the center doors  
worked.   Then the lowest seniority conductors were fired ...  
probably about 300 of them at the start of the Depression.  The Witts  
came in two versions, one with Westinghouse VA control and the other  
with GE PCM.   The car at Baltimore Streetcar Museum (6119) has PCM,  
600 volt motors, and spur gears.   The car at Seashore has VA  
control, 300 volt motors, and WN drive (sealed double-reduction  
gearboxes).

The second image was taken at Arlington Junction, Kelly Avenue and  
Cross Country Blvd.  The No. 25 line was behind and to the left of  
the operator (some pictures taken later show it as the 48 line).    
The Kelly Avenue shuttle went off to the right.   There are three  
different paint schemes in the picture.  The original paint scheme  
for the St. Louis PCC was a blue-green and cream with an orange belt  
rail.   The one man semi-convertible car in the center is painted a  
yellow-orange and ivory with a red belt rail.   And the railfan  
charter, is a two-man 5800, painted red and cream.   The red versus  
yellow paint was used to distinguish between two and one-man cars as  
long as Baltimore Transit ran both.

The third image is the lone Brilliner in front of Baltimore City  
Hall, Holliday St. in the block north of Fayette.   The Brilliner was  
scrapped in 1956.  I think for its entire life it ran extra service  
or tripper service on route 8, and the 8 Govanstown sign is  
indicative of a rush-hour northbound short turn in the direction of  
Towson.

The final picture shows the Brilliner in the pocket track at  
Catonsville loop.   The NRHS normally ran April and October trips.    
This may have been a regular car but I'm suspicious.




On Jan 17, 2007, at 2:10 AM, Jim Holland wrote:

> I sent the CTC photos first because it included photos of the pre-PCC
> Brill car.       Brill didn't want to participate in the PCC  
> program and
> built a competitor to the PCC, an upgrade of the pre-PCC Brill cars  
> for
> CTC.       The final PCC certainly looked different from the SLCCo  
> pre-PCC.
> .
> Baltimore had an upgraded Brilliner and a couple photos are included
> herein.       We all know that Fred is associated with the Museum in
> Baltimore so he can give us a description of the photos.
> .
> .
> .
> Jim___Holland
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