[PRCo] Re: PCCs in Operation

[Fred Schneider]

The exemption, as I understand it, applies to all museum equipment  
which is also what allows the trolley museums not to have to rebuild  
their equipment to be ADA compliant.   However, the original law  
(which I read) have been amended by subsequent regulations (which I  
did not read).   It also may have been made stiffer by local and  
state rules.

Mayor Dufus of New Orleans changed the rules himself when he put the  
900s from St Charles on Canal Street when it reopened after the  
flood.  I've not read that anyone challenged him.

Muni is making use of the ADA exemption every day on California  
Street and the Powell and Mason cables.   I cannot imagine that the  
entire F line is not an exemption because the Milan cars, Muni 1 and  
the other Iron Monsters, and the SEPTA rebuilds are clearly not ADA  
compliant because they have no wheel chair lifts.   Or did I miss  
something, Jim?

On Jan 17, 2007, at 5:59 PM, Ken & Tracie wrote:

> As the last production PCC streetcar built in the U.S., perhaps  
> they would
> want to keep 1040 as original as possible.
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> After all, I doubt anybody is going to make "Iron Monster" #1 ADA  
> compliant
> since it is a historical vehicle.
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> My understanding is that the St. Charles cars in N.O. and the cable  
> cars in
> S.F. are exempt from ADA rules and that special permission was  
> needed to run
> the St. Charles cars in the Canal Street line.
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> Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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> K.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Holland" <prcopcc at p-r-co.com>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>; "- 1714 PRCo__WP__JTC
> (WP-Cleveland;__DCT) -" <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>; "- 1717
> PRCo__WP__JTC (WP-Cleveland;__DCT) -" <pittsburgh- 
> railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 2:52 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: PCCs in Operation
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>> 1040 would not see regular service even if the axle is fixed  --
>> believe there are other things which need to be done to make it
>> operational, possibly in relation to ADA.
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>> Ken & Tracie wrote:
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>>> So they never fixed the broken axle on 1040?
>>>
>>> K.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Boris Cefer" <westinghouse at iol.cz>
>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 1:46 PM
>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: PCCs in Operation
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>>>> But no Baby Tens are operable.
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>>>> B
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>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Ken & Tracie" <ktjosephson at earthlink.net>
>>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:46 PM
>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: PCCs in Operation
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>>>>> Not quite...so are the "Baby Tens", including 1040, the last PCC
>>>>> streetcar
>>>>> to be constructed in the United States.
>>>>>
>>>>> K.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Boris Cefer" <westinghouse at iol.cz>
>>>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 11:48 AM
>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: PCCs in Operation
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>>>>>> Only the Torpedoes are original MUNI cars.
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