[PRCo] Re: PCCs in Operation

[Fred Schneider]

Then it may be something so simple as a stanchion on a PCC in the  
doorway that will not permit a portable ramp to fit into 1040.   The  
Philadelphia PCC at Arden was retrofitted with a center door  
stanchion that has a removable cotter pin that then allows the  
stanchion to be removed.   Once it is out of the way, a wheel chair  
lift can be rolled up to the center door and used as the manufacturer  
intended.   However, I think we also discovered that we could not  
call the car fully ADA compliant without cutting away part of the  
roof over that door because someone on the lift pushing a wheel chair  
in would not clear.   It's sort of a make-do arrangement.

On Jan 18, 2007, at 3:54 PM, Jim Holland wrote:

> There may be a line that is crossed somewhere on the ADA issue.
> Special platforms were built at stops for wheelchairs;  portable ramp
> from TrolleyCar to platform is set in place manually by the  
> operator on
> PCCs.       Don't know requirements about older equipment.       I may
> have heard but don't remember.       Activists have considerable
> influence in SF as most seem to know.
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>> Muni is making use of the ADA exemption every day on California  
>> Street
>> and the Powell and Mason cables. I cannot imagine that the entire F
>> line is not an exemption because the Milan cars, Muni 1 and the other
>> Iron Monsters, and the SEPTA rebuilds are clearly not ADA compliant
>> because they have no wheel chair lifts. Or did I miss something, Jim?
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