[PRCo] Re: Transit evolution

John Swindler j_swindler at hotmail.com
Sat Mar 10 15:26:50 EST 2007



Ike also saw the autobahn's in Germany.  Yes, they may have been a German 
showcase, but they were a great help to the Allies in closing weeks of the 
war.  I'll have to check to see if 2nd Armor used an autobahn - it covered 
half the distance to Berlin in one day.   Around 100 miles comes to mind, 
but would really want to research that.

Yet when it comes down to moving tonnage, nothing compares with rail.  And 
Ike knew that.  But rail is more susceptible to interdiction.  The Red Ball 
Express truck convoys were just an expedient until the French rail system 
could be restored.  And that restoration was never completed - Antwerp was 
captured.

The Interstate system connection with national defense may be more public 
relations then anything else.

John Swindler, Maj, retired
Transportation Corps.



>From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams2 at comcast.net>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Transit evolution
>Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 08:17:17 -0500
>
>The 1919 trip was assuredly the motivation for the Interstate Highway
>System.  It's well-documented in the recent (2-4 years ago?) book on the
>subject.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of Fred
>Schneider
>Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:43 PM
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Transit evolution
>
>
>ONLY 25 MINUTES BETTER THAN THE 1930 TRAIN SCHEDULE!
>
>I guess I need to research the legislation that created the
>Interstate Highway System that Dwight Eisenhower signed into law in
>1954.   Without any additional background information, I cannot help
>but be lead or mislead to conclude that Ike's military convoy by
>truck across the United States that took two months in 1919 and was
>done to demonstrate a need for good highways stuck with him lock
>afterward and may have lead him to support the Federal Interstate
>Highway Program.
>
>I can remember numerous family vacations in the 1940s and 1950s when
>we averaged 30 miles per hour.   I can remember one incredibly long
>day when we left a cousin's home in Palos Park, Illinois, just off
>route 30 southwest of Chicago, early one morning and dragged into the
>grandparent's home in Marietta, Ohio at 2 AM the next morning, having
>inched along route 30 through Fort Wayne and Lima and then down to
>Columbus and Zanesville and then down along the Muskingum River after
>midnight.    And then I think after Interstate Highways, driving from
>Palo Alto CA to Salt Lake City in the same time and from Grand Island
>NE to Lancaster PA from 9 AM one day to lunch time the next day.
>
>On Mar 9, 2007, at 8:17 PM, Bill Robb wrote:
>
> > My next memories are that Lake Shore Coach Company, the successor to
> > Lake Shore Electric Railway had traded franchises with Central
> > Greyhound.  CG ended up with the Cleveland - Toledo route and LSC got
> > the Cleveland to Marietta service.  In the 1950s I remember Lake
> > Shore Coach Company's PG 3701 buses in Marietta painted brown and
> > orange ... the orange probably a leftover from the interurban car
> > livery.    I don't have any schedules but I suspect they might have
> > averaged 25 to 30 miles per hour, which would have required 5 hours
> > 30 minutes to 6 hours 45 minutes for the Marietta - Cleveland run.
> > Driving it in an automobile in those days would have taken at least
> > five hours.
> > So why doesn't public transportation work today?
> >
> > Because I can get in my Volkswagen and drive the 168 miles on
> > Interstate 77 in 2 hours 30 minutes in spite of Ohio's overly
> > aggressive State Troopers.
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> > -------
> >
> > I have a timetable for Feb 1946 when the bus line was still Penn
> > Ohio which was later taken over by Greyhound.  Cleveland-Marietta
> > was 7 hours then. But you stopped at every place along the way.
> > And the bus ran everyday.  People still worked 6 days a week.
> >
> >
> >
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