[PRCo] Re: Transit evolution

[Fred Schneider]

And in 1919 it took the convoy three days to get from Washington to  
Pittsburgh and those were good roads.

On Mar 10, 2007, at 3:26 PM, John Swindler wrote:

>
>
> Ike also saw the autobahn's in Germany.  Yes, they may have been a  
> German
> showcase, but they were a great help to the Allies in closing weeks  
> of the
> war.  I'll have to check to see if 2nd Armor used an autobahn - it  
> covered
> half the distance to Berlin in one day.   Around 100 miles comes to  
> mind,
> but would really want to research that.
>
> Yet when it comes down to moving tonnage, nothing compares with  
> rail.  And
> Ike knew that.  But rail is more susceptible to interdiction.  The  
> Red Ball
> Express truck convoys were just an expedient until the French rail  
> system
> could be restored.  And that restoration was never completed -  
> Antwerp was
> captured.
>
> The Interstate system connection with national defense may be more  
> public
> relations then anything else.
>
> John Swindler, Maj, retired
> Transportation Corps.
>
>
>
>> From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams2 at comcast.net>
>> Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Transit evolution
>> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 08:17:17 -0500
>>
>> The 1919 trip was assuredly the motivation for the Interstate Highway
>> System.  It's well-documented in the recent (2-4 years ago?) book  
>> on the
>> subject.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of  
>> Fred
>> Schneider
>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:43 PM
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Transit evolution
>>
>>
>> ONLY 25 MINUTES BETTER THAN THE 1930 TRAIN SCHEDULE!
>>
>> I guess I need to research the legislation that created the
>> Interstate Highway System that Dwight Eisenhower signed into law in
>> 1954.   Without any additional background information, I cannot help
>> but be lead or mislead to conclude that Ike's military convoy by
>> truck across the United States that took two months in 1919 and was
>> done to demonstrate a need for good highways stuck with him lock
>> afterward and may have lead him to support the Federal Interstate
>> Highway Program.
>>
>> I can remember numerous family vacations in the 1940s and 1950s when
>> we averaged 30 miles per hour.   I can remember one incredibly long
>> day when we left a cousin's home in Palos Park, Illinois, just off
>> route 30 southwest of Chicago, early one morning and dragged into the
>> grandparent's home in Marietta, Ohio at 2 AM the next morning, having
>> inched along route 30 through Fort Wayne and Lima and then down to
>> Columbus and Zanesville and then down along the Muskingum River after
>> midnight.    And then I think after Interstate Highways, driving from
>> Palo Alto CA to Salt Lake City in the same time and from Grand Island
>> NE to Lancaster PA from 9 AM one day to lunch time the next day.
>>
>> On Mar 9, 2007, at 8:17 PM, Bill Robb wrote:
>>
>>> My next memories are that Lake Shore Coach Company, the successor to
>>> Lake Shore Electric Railway had traded franchises with Central
>>> Greyhound.  CG ended up with the Cleveland - Toledo route and LSC  
>>> got
>>> the Cleveland to Marietta service.  In the 1950s I remember Lake
>>> Shore Coach Company's PG 3701 buses in Marietta painted brown and
>>> orange ... the orange probably a leftover from the interurban car
>>> livery.    I don't have any schedules but I suspect they might have
>>> averaged 25 to 30 miles per hour, which would have required 5 hours
>>> 30 minutes to 6 hours 45 minutes for the Marietta - Cleveland run.
>>> Driving it in an automobile in those days would have taken at least
>>> five hours.
>>> So why doesn't public transportation work today?
>>>
>>> Because I can get in my Volkswagen and drive the 168 miles on
>>> Interstate 77 in 2 hours 30 minutes in spite of Ohio's overly
>>> aggressive State Troopers.
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>> --
>>> -------
>>>
>>> I have a timetable for Feb 1946 when the bus line was still Penn
>>> Ohio which was later taken over by Greyhound.  Cleveland-Marietta
>>> was 7 hours then. But you stopped at every place along the way.
>>> And the bus ran everyday.  People still worked 6 days a week.
>>>
>>>
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