[PRCo] Re: "Yellow cars"

[Edward H. Lybarger]

I don't think anyone knows for sure any more, Bob.  But the cars were a
flavor of orange...never traditional yellow.  Nor were they the "Omaha
Orange" that the West Penn System used after the 1917 fatal accident when a
green car ran over an auto near Elm Grove.

Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of Bob
Dietrich
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:25 AM
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Subject: [PRCo] Re: "Yellow cars"


Not to belabor the point but 4398 in the shop looks orange to me.  I went to
the LeRoy King Book Pennsylvania Trolleys Volume IV, the 40s, and found
several pictures of low-floor cars on pages 120-123.  These had many years
to fade and they all look like dirty faded orange, not yellow.  I even got
an unbiased opinion from my wife, who is never wrong, and she agreed -
orange. The Wilkes Barre car on page 77 is yellow.

I still contend that the PRCo low-floor cars were orange - I just wonder why
they became known as "yellow cars".  I have a theory that someone called
them yellow in the pollution years and nobody could see the cars clearly
enough to refute that claim. :-)

Does anyone know?

-----Original Message-----
From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Fred
Schneider
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:09 PM
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Subject: [PRCo] Re: "Yellow cars"

The lights inside the building tend to make the car look a lot more
yellow than it is.

On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Jim Holland wrote:

> When 3756 was painted a number of years ago, people Here On This List
> speculated that PTM mistakenly used  *M*aintenance Orange instead of
> Passenger Orange which is Much More Subtle  --  mebbe the same
> thing was
> done on 4398.       It is also photographed Inside which can alter the
> color outcome.
> .
> Regardless of the soot in the air the color will still Fade in the
> normal fashion  --  Cars Were Washed regularly then.       The acid in
> the air may have helped to promote the fade, also mentioned here on
> this
> list before.
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> ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^
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> Jim  Holland
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> Studying Pittsburgh Railways Company (PRCo)
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> ..............................From 1930 -- 1950
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> Pennsylvania  Trolley  Museum  (PTM)
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> http://www.pa-trolley.org/
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> N.M.R.A.
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> http://www.nmra.org/
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> Bob Dietrich wrote:
>> Is all of Pittsburgh Color-blind or is it just PTM members?       Why
>> is that orange car called "yellow"?       I don't buy that it will
>> "fade to yellow", in 1930 it would fade to black-over-orange.
>