[PRCo] Re: "Yellow cars"

Fred Schneider fwschneider at comcast.net
Tue Nov 20 11:36:59 EST 2007


They did use different manufacturers of paint.   That shows up in the  
paint book.

On Nov 20, 2007, at 11:02 AM, John Swindler wrote:

>
> Maybe PRC tried different orange/yellow paints over the years for  
> their passenger cars?  We are assuming that once the color was  
> changed from maroon to orange/yellow, it remained the same until 1955.
>
> Could there have been different shades between work and passenger  
> cars, and somewhere circa 1950, PRC stopped buying paint for the  
> low-floor passenger cars???
>
> Just some other possibilities to kick around.
>
> John
>
>
>
>> From: fwschneider at comcast.net> Subject: [PRCo] Re: "Yellow cars">  
>> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:49:39 -0500> To: pittsburgh- 
>> railways at dementia.org> > I've seen Kodachromes of cars just  
>> painted and they looked yellowish > orange ... pretty close to the  
>> standard school bus yellow. There is > a slide of a car at Keating  
>> that John Seibert took about 1948 or 1949 > when he was working  
>> for the New Kensington YMCA ... car had just been > painted ... I  
>> think it was 4366 ... may have been published in one of > the  
>> Morning Sun books ... the original slide looked very yellowish >  
>> orange. If you compared it to work cars or West Penn cars, the >  
>> latter two were definitely much less yellow and more orange. Once  
>> > you get that car out of the shop and away from those Sodium  
>> Vapor > shop lights, you'll see a big difference.> > On Nov 20,  
>> 2007, at 9:24 AM, Bob Dietrich wrote:> > > Not to belabor the  
>> point but 4398 in the shop looks orange to me. > > I went to> >  
>> the LeRoy King Book Pennsylvania !
>  Trolleys Volume IV, the 40s, and > > found> > several pictures of  
> low-floor cars on pages 120-123. These had > > many years> > to  
> fade and they all look like dirty faded orange, not yellow. I > >  
> even got> > an unbiased opinion from my wife, who is never wrong,  
> and she agreed -> > orange. The Wilkes Barre car on page 77 is  
> yellow.> >> > I still contend that the PRCo low-floor cars were  
> orange - I just > > wonder why> > they became known as "yellow  
> cars". I have a theory that someone > > called> > them yellow in  
> the pollution years and nobody could see the cars > > clearly> >  
> enough to refute that claim. :-)> >> > Does anyone know?> >> > ----- 
> Original Message-----> > From: pittsburgh-railways- 
> bounce at lists.dementia.org> > [mailto:pittsburgh-railways- 
> bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of > > Fred> > Schneider> >  
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:09 PM> > To: pittsburgh- 
> railways at dementia.org> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: "Yellow cars"> >> >  
> The lights inside the building tend to mak!
>  e the car look a lot more> > yellow than it is.> >> > On Nov 19,  
> 2007,
>  at 9:17 AM, Jim Holland wrote:> >> >> When 3756 was painted a  
> number of years ago, people Here On This List> >> speculated that  
> PTM mistakenly used *M*aintenance Orange instead of> >> Passenger  
> Orange which is Much More Subtle -- mebbe the same> >> thing was>  
> >> done on 4398. It is also photographed Inside which can alter >  
> >> the> >> color outcome.> >> .> >> Regardless of the soot in the  
> air the color will still Fade in the> >> normal fashion -- Cars  
> Were Washed regularly then. The > >> acid in> >> the air may have  
> helped to promote the fade, also mentioned here on> >> this> >>  
> list before.> >> .> >> .> >> ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^> >> .> >> .> >>  
> Jim Holland> >> .> >> Studying Pittsburgh Railways Company (PRCo)>  
> >> .> >> ..............................From 1930 -- 1950> >> .> >>  
> Pennsylvania Trolley Museum (PTM)> >> .> >> http://www.pa- 
> trolley.org/> >> .> >> N.M.R.A.> >> .> >> http://www.nmra.org/> >>>  
> >>> >>> >> Bob Dietrich wrote:> >>> Is all of Pittsburgh Color- 
> blind or is it!
>   just PTM members? > >>> Why> >>> is that orange car called  
> "yellow"? I don't buy that it will> >>> "fade to yellow", in 1930  
> it would fade to black-over-orange.> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >
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