[PRCo] Re: "Yellow cars"

John Swindler j_swindler at hotmail.com
Tue Nov 20 11:02:57 EST 2007


 
Maybe PRC tried different orange/yellow paints over the years for their passenger cars?  We are assuming that once the color was changed from maroon to orange/yellow, it remained the same until 1955.  
 
Could there have been different shades between work and passenger cars, and somewhere circa 1950, PRC stopped buying paint for the low-floor passenger cars???
 
Just some other possibilities to kick around.
 
John
 
 
 
> From: fwschneider at comcast.net> Subject: [PRCo] Re: "Yellow cars"> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:49:39 -0500> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > I've seen Kodachromes of cars just painted and they looked yellowish > orange ... pretty close to the standard school bus yellow. There is > a slide of a car at Keating that John Seibert took about 1948 or 1949 > when he was working for the New Kensington YMCA ... car had just been > painted ... I think it was 4366 ... may have been published in one of > the Morning Sun books ... the original slide looked very yellowish > orange. If you compared it to work cars or West Penn cars, the > latter two were definitely much less yellow and more orange. Once > you get that car out of the shop and away from those Sodium Vapor > shop lights, you'll see a big difference.> > On Nov 20, 2007, at 9:24 AM, Bob Dietrich wrote:> > > Not to belabor the point but 4398 in the shop looks orange to me. > > I went to> > the LeRoy King Book Pennsylvania Trolleys Volume IV, the 40s, and > > found> > several pictures of low-floor cars on pages 120-123. These had > > many years> > to fade and they all look like dirty faded orange, not yellow. I > > even got> > an unbiased opinion from my wife, who is never wrong, and she agreed -> > orange. The Wilkes Barre car on page 77 is yellow.> >> > I still contend that the PRCo low-floor cars were orange - I just > > wonder why> > they became known as "yellow cars". I have a theory that someone > > called> > them yellow in the pollution years and nobody could see the cars > > clearly> > enough to refute that claim. :-)> >> > Does anyone know?> >> > -----Original Message-----> > From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org> > [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of > > Fred> > Schneider> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:09 PM> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: "Yellow cars"> >> > The lights inside the building tend to make the car look a lot more> > yellow than it is.> >> > On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Jim Holland wrote:> >> >> When 3756 was painted a number of years ago, people Here On This List> >> speculated that PTM mistakenly used *M*aintenance Orange instead of> >> Passenger Orange which is Much More Subtle -- mebbe the same> >> thing was> >> done on 4398. It is also photographed Inside which can alter > >> the> >> color outcome.> >> .> >> Regardless of the soot in the air the color will still Fade in the> >> normal fashion -- Cars Were Washed regularly then. The > >> acid in> >> the air may have helped to promote the fade, also mentioned here on> >> this> >> list before.> >> .> >> .> >> ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^> >> .> >> .> >> Jim Holland> >> .> >> Studying Pittsburgh Railways Company (PRCo)> >> .> >> ..............................From 1930 -- 1950> >> .> >> Pennsylvania Trolley Museum (PTM)> >> .> >> http://www.pa-trolley.org/> >> .> >> N.M.R.A.> >> .> >> http://www.nmra.org/> >>> >>> >>> >> Bob Dietrich wrote:> >>> Is all of Pittsburgh Color-blind or is it just PTM members? > >>> Why> >>> is that orange car called "yellow"? I don't buy that it will> >>> "fade to yellow", in 1930 it would fade to black-over-orange.> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > 
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