[PRCo] Re: Eggcidents~!~!~!~!

[Fred Schneider]

Now what happens when a cable breaks and catches a grip and there is  
no way on the face of the earth that the gripman can let go.   I  
assume in that case he is exonerated?   What about other vehicle  
defects?

I understand the motor vehicle code in Pennsylvania makes the driver  
of the vehicle responsible for knowing he has a defective vehicle.    
I have a CDL.   If I were to take a bus out of the garage and the  
brakes are out of adjustment and the shoes fail to touch the drums,  
shame on me for not rejecting it.   I can loose my license.    
Unfortunately there are defects which drivers cannot and never could  
verify.   Yes, I can see if the brake pistons on a truck or bus are  
coming out too far.   But there is no way a man on a PCC could tell  
if the drum brake shoe linings were adequate because they were hidden  
inside the drums inside the trucks.



On Oct 2, 2007, at 5:25 PM, Jim Holland wrote:

> Hitting AnyThing Stationary here in SF is Automatically Chargeable And
> Automatic Time Off WithOut Pay  --  don't consider appealing it.
> This is an ImPerfect World so this statement probably has  
> exceptions, as
> does the statement below.
> .
> The statement below is a disclaimer but doesn't mean it can't // won't
> be challenged And it certainly doesn't give someone who owns the
> property total abandon to operate as he pleases.       The railway may
> own the prw but when it comes to crossing roadways and operating in
> streets there are rules of engagement which all must follow.     The
> statement below falls apart when Bus is included because it doesn't  
> have
> any so-called right of way in the streets ala TrolleyCars on fixed
> guideway.     And TrolleyCars in streets down own the right of way  
> even
> though responsible for maintaining it to within a certain distance of
> each track.
> .
> The Key for Professional Drivers - Bus, Truck, Trolley, Cable, Taxi,
> etc. - is Avoidance.     The legal responsibility for an accident may
> lie elsewhere but if the Pro Driver could avoid the accident and  
> didn't
> then he carries responsibility as far as his own company is
> concerned.     This goes into the record as you know and can work
> against the employee.
> .
> The law also talks Deep Pockets  --  someone else may be  
> responsible for
> the accident but the person involved with Deep Pockets often winds up
> with the greatest responsibility for same, esp. financially.
> .
> .
> .
> Herb Brannon wrote:
>>
>> Anything or anyone PRCo/PATransit property (private right-of-way,
>> two-feet either side of street trackage, private right-of-way bus
>> roadways, transit-ways, etc.) are responsible for their own damages,
>> under law, if they are struck by a trolley, bus, or non-revenue
>> vehicle while on that property. This includes parked, unoccupied
>> vehicles on the street, but too close to the rails. However, like I
>> said it is easier to stop than to do the paperwork. Look through the
>> archives of The List and you will find a true story I wrote about me
>> hitting a parked auto one night on Warrington Avenue.
>> Phillip Clark Campbell <pcc_sr at yahoo.com> wrote: I don't know Prc
>> official policy do I but motormen were very cautious at grade
>> crossings. A day may have existed when they raced through but that  
>> was
>> an extremely rare experience in the 1940s forward, maybe long  
>> before that.
>>
>>
>>
>> Phil
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