[PRCo] Re: Interurban Route Speeds

[fwschneider at comcast.net]

Averages around 8 or 9 were typical for public transit on city streets.   Muni isn't out of the ordinary.  I see nothing strange at all.
Rural interurbans got into the teens when you divide terminal to terminal time by miles.

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From: Jim Holland <PRCoPCC at P-R-Co.com> 

> Yesterday's SF Chron had an article about SF Muni where it indicates 
> Average Speed @ 8.1-mph is slowest in the nation! AC-Transit 
> (successor(?) to Key System across the Bay in Oakland) is 11.7 and 
> BeanTown is 16.9 - Well Over Twice that of Muni. This is obviously 
> comparing system to system but it would be More interesting to compare 
> Bus to Bus, TrolleyCoach to TrolleyCoach (Boston and SF), and rail to 
> rail except that Muni is essentially a streetcar system with a long 
> tunnel under Market while Boston has much El, subway, and totally prw lrvs. 
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> http://tinyurl.com/2k9vap 
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> Don't have time to go through all the messages now -- have papers to 
> prepare for committee work -- see you sometime next week. 
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> > ----- Forwarded Message ---- 
> > From: Edward H. Lybarger 
> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org 
> > Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 5:08:41 PM 
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Interurban Route Speeds 
> > 
> > You might have done 40+ mph coming downhill from Eldora to Black Diamond in 
> > a 3700 or 3800, but not for long. Normally it was a lot less...the track 
> > just wasn't that good in later years. I thought the PCCs on Washington 
> > poked along. The schedule speed was a lot lower than the peak: 
> > 
> > Charleroi: 35.23 miles 2:10 RT 2.1667 hours 16.25975 mph 
> > Washington: 29.03 miles 1:49 RT 1.8167 hours 15.97952 mph 
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org 
> > [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of Jerry 
> > Matt Matsick 
> > Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 7:51 PM 
> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org 
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Interurban Route Speeds 
> > 
> > 
> > I had the opportunity to ride the Charleroi Interurban and thinking back as 
> > a 10-12 year old boy, I thought the car was "flying", but in reality it 
> > probably wasn't, all I know on some of the open straight aways, it seemed 
> > like we were "flying", some thoughts on this? 
> > and travel times from Pittsburgh to Li'l Wash and to Charleroi, the 
> > conversations on this 
> > group have been fantastic, keep it up! 
> > Jerry Matsick 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Jerry "Matt" Matsick 
> > Jacksonville, Florida 
> > 
> > 
> > -------------- Original message from "Edward H. Lybarger" 
> > : -------------- 
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> > 
> > 
> >> Looks like maybe a 3500, which would have been wood. The trucks are wrong 
> >> for a 3400. The steel sides on 3487 were added when it became M132. 
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message----- 
> >> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org 
> >> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of 
> >> prcopcc at p-r-co.com 
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 3:14 AM 
> >> To: pittsburgh-railways at lists.dementia.org 
> >> Subject: [PRCo] Large Wood TrolleyCar~!~!~! 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> http://tinyurl.com/295x68 
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