[PRCo] Re: Active PCC lines?

[fwschneider at comcast.net]

Phil:
When you do not know how to properly torque the mounting bolts or maintain the shunts around the rubber so that the signals will detect cars, you go to solid steel wheels to correct inadequate maintenance practices.   Phil Craig could explain the Boston problem ... I recall they were ordered to use solid wheels because cars were not tripping signals because the shunts around the rubber were broken off and not being fixed.   

As you hinted, it was a matter of incompetence.

Fred Schneider

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From: Phillip Clark Campbell <pcc_sr at yahoo.com> 

> Boston has/had Pccs didn't they. Isolated Mattapan line temporarily closed 
> now used refurbished Pccs. Word is they are to be upgraded with AC in the 
> current fan monitor which won't look as obtrusive as Philly new cars. But 
> reopening of the line is constantly postponed. This is causing fears in the 
> railfan community that the Pccs might not return. 
> 
> Boston had a nice system. Totally contrary to the ideals of the day where 
> streetcars were hated as obsolete, Boston opened a new line in 1959 to Riverside 
> with Pcc service. The solid wheels are difficult to accept as they are very 
> noisy and not pleasantly so don't you think. Strange that Boston and CTA el 
> would have trouble with resilient wheels but not anyone else. The beautiful 
> Shaker system ran Pccs at sustained high speeds and didn't have wheel troubles. 
> 
> Phil 
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> ----- Original Message ---- 
> From: Jim Holland 
> To: - 1714 PRCo__WP__JTC - 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 1:29:35 PM 
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Active PCC lines? 
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> Just a quick note before I run::::::: 
> . 
> Kenosha also has PCCs but that is more like a Museum operation 
> currently. The PCCs in Kenosha are from the last newly built PCCs for 
> Toronto. 
> .. 
> You and Mark should come to SF some time -- maybe a future PRCo get 
> together could be in SF. We have PCCs from Philly and Newark (ex-Twin 
> Cities PCCs) as well as vintage equipment. It is only one long line 
> but with quite varied operation -- with the addition of a loop near 
> CalTrain PCCs could see Much More Service. Car #1 is the original car 
> with which Muni started service in 1912 and it has often held down a 
> schedule admirably. If we can get a group together we could then 
> charter a car and go many other places than the F line. 
> . 
> Such a trip should also include time for travel to other spots - 
> Redwoods in Humboldt, coast, Parks, etc. M~U~C~H to do out here. 
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> > ----- Forwarded Message ---- 
> > From: Jerry Matt Matsick 
> > To: Pittsburgh Company 
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 9:20:29 AM 
> > Subject: [PRCo] Active PCC lines? 
> > 
> > Don't get upset as this might have been brought up previously, but how shall 
> we know if we don't discuss and maybe re-discuss! 
> > Besides Philly and SF what other cities are still using PCCs today? 
> > -- 
> > Jerry "Matt" Matsick 
> > Jacksonville, Florida 
> > 
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