[PRCo] Re: [PRCo]End of a Street car line?

[Ken & Tracie]

That was my point, Fred.

K.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 4:25 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: [PRCo]End of a Street car line?


> Got a point Ken.   One streetcar line in an alley in an all black  
> neighborhood in St. Louis didn't have a chance, did it.   Seems to me  
> that Hodiamont was the very last line in St. Louis.
> 
> On Aug 3, 2008, at 1:31 PM, Ken & Tracie wrote:
> 
>> I do know for a fact that many, many people living along St. Louis'
>> Hodiamont line raised a big fuss when that line was slated for  
>> bustitution,
>> but they did not have the political clout the people in  
>> Philadelphia had
>> twenty years later to keep the nearly empty Route 23 cars shuttling  
>> past
>> their homes for ambience.....heck, even that line has been  
>> "suspended" since
>> the early 1990s.
>>
>> I do know some people in the South Hills put up a good fight to  
>> save the
>> Library, Drake and Mount Lebanon lines.
>>
>> Remember, though, some of the loudest streetcar opponents were  
>> motorists who
>> didn't live in a particular car line's corridor, but drove through it,
>> hating to drive on the tracks and getting "trapped" behind streetcars
>> picking up passengers.
>>
>> I know a person who rode and wanted the 42/38 saved, but was happy  
>> when the
>> 53 was abandoned because he hating driving in traffic with streetcars.
>>
>> K.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jerry MATT Matsick" <mtoytrain at bellsouth.net>
>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 10:16 AM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: [PRCo]End of a Street car line?
>>
>>
>>> My question when PRCo/PAT decided to cut a street car line, did  
>>> not the
>>> people fuss about it?
>>> I was in the Service during the 60s, if I had been in town I would  
>>> have
>>> tried to stop it, but was
>>> it just the sign of the times?  I remember when the drop the  
>>> Donora car? I
>>> was just 11 but I was
>>> upset.   Now cities are looking and the establishment of new RAIL  
>>> LINES ,
>>> I guess it is what
>>> comes around goes around!    Groups thought?
>>> Jerry Matsick
>>> Former Donora/Pittsburgher (North Hills)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jerry "Matt" Matsick
>>> You don't stop laughing because
>>> you grow old. You grow old
>>> because you stop laughing from the
>>> River City by the sea!
>>> Jacksonville, Florida!
>>>
>>> -------------- Original message from "Ken & Tracie"
>>> <ktjosephson at embarqmail.com>: --------------
>>>
>>>
>>>> OFF TOPIC WARNING!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Fred Schneider"
>>>> To:
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 5:28 AM
>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Greyhound crime
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I love the choice of advertisements that go with it, Philip. Teen
>>>>> teeth whiteners and high blood pressure medicines! They're a hoot.
>>>>
>>>> Back in 1981 or '82, some jerk in Waukesha, Wisconsin kidnapped his
>>>> estranged wife (she lived across the street from me), murdered her,
>>>> hacksawed her head from her body, dumped the body in a cornfield and
>>>> burnt
>>>> the head in his parents' wood burning stove.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I was listening to a news report about the case some months
>>>> later.
>>>> Immediately after the newscaster mentioned that the suspect had  
>>>> sawed off
>>>> his wife's head, they went to a commercial break. The commercial  
>>>> was for
>>>> a
>>>> home improvement store and began with the sound of somebody  
>>>> sawing. Then
>>>> the
>>>> music started with people cheerfully singing, "When you're  
>>>> working at
>>>> home,
>>>> and you need a helping hand.............."
>>>>
>>>> K.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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