[PRCo] Re: [PRCo]End of a Street car line?

[Fred Schneider]

I read you loud and clear, Ken.

On Aug 4, 2008, at 2:29 PM, Ken & Tracie wrote:

> That was my point, Fred.
>
> K.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 4:25 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: [PRCo]End of a Street car line?
>
>
>> Got a point Ken.   One streetcar line in an alley in an all black
>> neighborhood in St. Louis didn't have a chance, did it.   Seems to me
>> that Hodiamont was the very last line in St. Louis.
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2008, at 1:31 PM, Ken & Tracie wrote:
>>
>>> I do know for a fact that many, many people living along St. Louis'
>>> Hodiamont line raised a big fuss when that line was slated for
>>> bustitution,
>>> but they did not have the political clout the people in
>>> Philadelphia had
>>> twenty years later to keep the nearly empty Route 23 cars shuttling
>>> past
>>> their homes for ambience.....heck, even that line has been
>>> "suspended" since
>>> the early 1990s.
>>>
>>> I do know some people in the South Hills put up a good fight to
>>> save the
>>> Library, Drake and Mount Lebanon lines.
>>>
>>> Remember, though, some of the loudest streetcar opponents were
>>> motorists who
>>> didn't live in a particular car line's corridor, but drove  
>>> through it,
>>> hating to drive on the tracks and getting "trapped" behind  
>>> streetcars
>>> picking up passengers.
>>>
>>> I know a person who rode and wanted the 42/38 saved, but was happy
>>> when the
>>> 53 was abandoned because he hating driving in traffic with  
>>> streetcars.
>>>
>>> K.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jerry MATT Matsick" <mtoytrain at bellsouth.net>
>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 10:16 AM
>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: [PRCo]End of a Street car line?
>>>
>>>
>>>> My question when PRCo/PAT decided to cut a street car line, did
>>>> not the
>>>> people fuss about it?
>>>> I was in the Service during the 60s, if I had been in town I would
>>>> have
>>>> tried to stop it, but was
>>>> it just the sign of the times?  I remember when the drop the
>>>> Donora car? I
>>>> was just 11 but I was
>>>> upset.   Now cities are looking and the establishment of new RAIL
>>>> LINES ,
>>>> I guess it is what
>>>> comes around goes around!    Groups thought?
>>>> Jerry Matsick
>>>> Former Donora/Pittsburgher (North Hills)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jerry "Matt" Matsick
>>>> You don't stop laughing because
>>>> you grow old. You grow old
>>>> because you stop laughing from the
>>>> River City by the sea!
>>>> Jacksonville, Florida!
>>>>
>>>> -------------- Original message from "Ken & Tracie"
>>>> <ktjosephson at embarqmail.com>: --------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> OFF TOPIC WARNING!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Fred Schneider"
>>>>> To:
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 5:28 AM
>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Greyhound crime
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I love the choice of advertisements that go with it, Philip. Teen
>>>>>> teeth whiteners and high blood pressure medicines! They're a  
>>>>>> hoot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Back in 1981 or '82, some jerk in Waukesha, Wisconsin kidnapped  
>>>>> his
>>>>> estranged wife (she lived across the street from me), murdered  
>>>>> her,
>>>>> hacksawed her head from her body, dumped the body in a  
>>>>> cornfield and
>>>>> burnt
>>>>> the head in his parents' wood burning stove.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, I was listening to a news report about the case some  
>>>>> months
>>>>> later.
>>>>> Immediately after the newscaster mentioned that the suspect had
>>>>> sawed off
>>>>> his wife's head, they went to a commercial break. The commercial
>>>>> was for
>>>>> a
>>>>> home improvement store and began with the sound of somebody
>>>>> sawing. Then
>>>>> the
>>>>> music started with people cheerfully singing, "When you're
>>>>> working at
>>>>> home,
>>>>> and you need a helping hand.............."
>>>>>
>>>>> K.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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