[PRCo] Re: ]End of a Street car line?

Jerry MATT Matsick mtoytrain at bellsouth.net
Mon Aug 4 14:57:47 EDT 2008


Thanks for all the comments on the "End of a Street Car line".   Now what would
really be interesting would be to hear from those of you that actually rode on the last
day of service for various street car lines.   Guys/Gals, I find this very interesting.
Thanks to all of you.
Jerry Matsick
Jacksonville
--
Jerry "Matt" Matsick 
You don't stop laughing because 
you grow old. You grow old 
because you stop laughing from the 
River City by the sea! 
Jacksonville, Florida!

-------------- Original message from Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>: -------------- 


> I read you loud and clear, Ken. 
> 
> On Aug 4, 2008, at 2:29 PM, Ken & Tracie wrote: 
> 
> > That was my point, Fred. 
> > 
> > K. 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Fred Schneider" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 4:25 PM 
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: [PRCo]End of a Street car line? 
> > 
> > 
> >> Got a point Ken. One streetcar line in an alley in an all black 
> >> neighborhood in St. Louis didn't have a chance, did it. Seems to me 
> >> that Hodiamont was the very last line in St. Louis. 
> >> 
> >> On Aug 3, 2008, at 1:31 PM, Ken & Tracie wrote: 
> >> 
> >>> I do know for a fact that many, many people living along St. Louis' 
> >>> Hodiamont line raised a big fuss when that line was slated for 
> >>> bustitution, 
> >>> but they did not have the political clout the people in 
> >>> Philadelphia had 
> >>> twenty years later to keep the nearly empty Route 23 cars shuttling 
> >>> past 
> >>> their homes for ambience.....heck, even that line has been 
> >>> "suspended" since 
> >>> the early 1990s. 
> >>> 
> >>> I do know some people in the South Hills put up a good fight to 
> >>> save the 
> >>> Library, Drake and Mount Lebanon lines. 
> >>> 
> >>> Remember, though, some of the loudest streetcar opponents were 
> >>> motorists who 
> >>> didn't live in a particular car line's corridor, but drove 
> >>> through it, 
> >>> hating to drive on the tracks and getting "trapped" behind 
> >>> streetcars 
> >>> picking up passengers. 
> >>> 
> >>> I know a person who rode and wanted the 42/38 saved, but was happy 
> >>> when the 
> >>> 53 was abandoned because he hating driving in traffic with 
> >>> streetcars. 
> >>> 
> >>> K. 
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> From: "Jerry MATT Matsick" 
> >>> To: 
> >>> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 10:16 AM 
> >>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: [PRCo]End of a Street car line? 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> My question when PRCo/PAT decided to cut a street car line, did 
> >>>> not the 
> >>>> people fuss about it? 
> >>>> I was in the Service during the 60s, if I had been in town I would 
> >>>> have 
> >>>> tried to stop it, but was 
> >>>> it just the sign of the times? I remember when the drop the 
> >>>> Donora car? I 
> >>>> was just 11 but I was 
> >>>> upset. Now cities are looking and the establishment of new RAIL 
> >>>> LINES , 
> >>>> I guess it is what 
> >>>> comes around goes around! Groups thought? 
> >>>> Jerry Matsick 
> >>>> Former Donora/Pittsburgher (North Hills) 
> >>>> 
> >>>> -- 
> >>>> Jerry "Matt" Matsick 
> >>>> You don't stop laughing because 
> >>>> you grow old. You grow old 
> >>>> because you stop laughing from the 
> >>>> River City by the sea! 
> >>>> Jacksonville, Florida! 
> >>>> 
> >>>> -------------- Original message from "Ken & Tracie" 
> >>>> : -------------- 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> OFF TOPIC WARNING! 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>>> From: "Fred Schneider" 
> >>>>> To: 
> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 5:28 AM 
> >>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Greyhound crime 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> I love the choice of advertisements that go with it, Philip. Teen 
> >>>>>> teeth whiteners and high blood pressure medicines! They're a 
> >>>>>> hoot. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Back in 1981 or '82, some jerk in Waukesha, Wisconsin kidnapped 
> >>>>> his 
> >>>>> estranged wife (she lived across the street from me), murdered 
> >>>>> her, 
> >>>>> hacksawed her head from her body, dumped the body in a 
> >>>>> cornfield and 
> >>>>> burnt 
> >>>>> the head in his parents' wood burning stove. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Anyway, I was listening to a news report about the case some 
> >>>>> months 
> >>>>> later. 
> >>>>> Immediately after the newscaster mentioned that the suspect had 
> >>>>> sawed off 
> >>>>> his wife's head, they went to a commercial break. The commercial 
> >>>>> was for 
> >>>>> a 
> >>>>> home improvement store and began with the sound of somebody 
> >>>>> sawing. Then 
> >>>>> the 
> >>>>> music started with people cheerfully singing, "When you're 
> >>>>> working at 
> >>>>> home, 
> >>>>> and you need a helping hand.............." 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> K. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> 
> 



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