[PRCo] Re: Con Cor International Ltd

Tue Dec 9 15:08:10 EST 2008

Mr.Allman;

I wrote to Con Cor yesterday and received a prompt response  (enclosed below.)
With such a large market for HO it would certainly seem that your suggestions for
a variety of trolley cowls and different doors would be excellent and an easy
'modification'  wouldn't it  --  door space would be open and the customer would snap the desired door configuration into place.  It seems that a little more thought for this product could have produced excellent variety with minimum effort doesn't it.

I assume the model is one of the first Air-Electric PCCs for LA  --  if it is the later Air Car
then the door configuration will be wrong for virtually all other PCCs won't it.  LA cars 
did have blinkers so this will work nicely for the Pittsburgh paint schemes.

The paint schemes seem to be  'decently' represented don't they:

First Group we hope to release sometime in the  Fall 2008 
Retail Price  $159.98  

0001-093001  Los Angeles Car # 3001 (Two Tone yellow)
0001-093002  Philadelphia (Philly Cream Cheese scheme)
0001-093003  Brooklyn Car #   (Tan) (Has Next Car Light)**
0001-093004  Chicago (Green Hornet Scheme)
0001-093005  Pittsburg (Red and Cream Scheme)
0001-093006  San Fran. Muni "Magic Carpet Scheme" (Has Next Car Light)**

 2nd Group of PCC Cars to be released Winter 2008 / 09 
0001-093007  Join Civil Defense Car (Flag Blue / white / Red)
0001-093008  Pacific Electric (Red / orange) (Has Next Car Light)**
0001-093009  D.C. Transit
0001-093010  Philladephia Orange/ Blue
0001-093011  Baltimore 
0001-093012  Boston Elevated Railway
The HO PCC cars listed below, are fully painted in the color
scheme listed,
but no lettering applied, for those of you who might
want to decal a car for
your own city, or private transit system. 

0001-093050  Orange and Tan 
--best choice if you want to repaint to different color
--just use the Orange and Tan as primer coat 

0001-093051  LA Two Tone yellow paint- no printing)
0001-093052  Philadelphia (Philly Cream Cheese paint scheme-no printing) 
0001-093053  Brooklyn Car   (Tan paint - no printing ) Has "Next Car Light" **
0001-093054  Chicago (Green Hornet Scheme) -no printing
0001-093055  Pittsburg (Red and Cream Scheme) -no printing
0001-093056  San Fran. Muni "Magic Carpet Scheme" -no printing Has "Next Car Light" **

 2nd Group of "no printing" cars to be released Winter 2008 / 09 

0001-093057  Red/White/Blue patriotic colors -no printing
0001-093058  Pacific Electric (Red / orange) -no printing (Has Next Car light) **
0001-093059  D.C. Transit colors - no printing
0001-093060  Philladephia Orange/ Blue -no printing
0001-093061  Baltimore -colors - no printing
0001-093062  Boston- orange - no printing
By contrast the Russian cars in "O"-Scale are specific for whatever system one
desires with an endless variety of modifications and paint schemes aren't they.

Phil

-------- Original Message -------- 
Subject: Re: "HO" PCC Streetcars 
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 13:10:51 -0700 (MST) 
From: concor at con-cor.com 
To: <pcc_sr at yahoo.com> 
References: <493D746E.9000003> 

models not ready to photograph till maybe end of Jan.
when we have photos we will post on net.
Model is of the LA car, single end only, we can not
make multiple tooling for various car bodies and
specific city differences.

When making mass producted model we have to settle on
basicly one design, can not do specific differences for
each city.

Will be up too customer if they want an exact specific
city model, or will be happy with something that is close,
but maybe not 100% exact.

We know about "h", will be fixed..

Thank you for your interest.
Con-Cor Trains

>      Hello!
>
>
>  I just noted your offering of  HO  PCC  TrolleyCars:
>
>  http://all-railroads.com/PCC-Streetcars.html
>
>      I don't see a picture of the model  --
> is it Single End or Double End?   Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,
> has an "H" on the end which you omitted.   Additionally,
> San Francisco and Pacific Electric did not have the
> Next  Car  Light.
>
>  Are you confusing the catcher on the front dash for the
> trolley rope with this light?        The picture you show
> of San Francisco is a full-fledged double end PCC so it
> does have trolley poles on both ends as well as dual
> taillights on the dash below the windows but these are not
> Next Car Lights.       This would be the cars 1001-1005
> and 1006-1015.       The rest of the San Francisco
> fleet  --  1016--1040,  1101--1170, and the current
> ex-Septa PCCs in San Francisco are all Single End but
> sport trolley poles and catchers on both ends.     
> Much overhead special work where it is safer to change
> poles for backing maneuvers.

> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Richard Allman <allmanr at verizon.net>
> 
> I wish that ConCor was doing more prototypic paint schemes besides the LA 
> Rwys original(like the later NCL and LAMTA ones), the Boston 3001, a 
> selection of Pittsburgh schemes-V front, simple cream and red, Torontoand 
> not bother w/ all the faux stuff-e.g., PE, Washington. And if only they had 
> listened to Bob and me and provided a sprue w/ blinker or folding doors, 
> large or small pole shroud, scalloped front windshield for Phila., KC or St. 
> Louis.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "BobDietrich" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:15 AM
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Con Cor International Ltd
> >
> >
> >I wrote to Con-Cor a month ago about Pittsburg.  I got a nice reply saying
> > they would fix it immediately. Are they a government organization?
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> Dennis F. Cramer
> >>
> >> http://all-railroads.com/PCC-Streetcars.html
> >> I guess Con-Cor does not realize that Pittsburgh has an "h" on the end.
> >>
> >>
> >> Dennis F. Cramer