[PRCo] Re: Con Cor International Ltd

Richard Allman allmanr at verizon.net
Wed Dec 10 00:06:43 EST 2008 

yeah, Phil-the car is the original LA Railways order w/ conventional door 
arrangement. If the anticlimbers, pole shrouds, doors, retrievers, roof 
mats,etc had been provided, a lot of variety would be possible. And for the 
trolley modellers who use Orr switches, clearly some modification will be 
necessary to make the cars turn sufficiently sharply. MAybe someone will 
come up w/ an after-market sprue w/ the fittings to make the car more 
versatile. And hopefully conCor is attentive to anticlimbers of right length 
for various cities-narrow for Brooklyn, Boston 3001, Baltimore, originally 
narrow for Pittsburgh then full. And no roof mat for Toronto and on and on! 
RICH
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phillip Clark Campbell" <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 3:08 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Con Cor International Ltd


> Mr.Allman;
>
>
> I wrote to Con Cor yesterday and received a prompt response  (enclosed 
> below.)
> With such a large market for HO it would certainly seem that your 
> suggestions for
> a variety of trolley cowls and different doors would be excellent and an 
> easy
> 'modification'  wouldn't it  --  door space would be open and the customer 
> would snap the desired door configuration into place.  It seems that a 
> little more thought for this product could have produced excellent variety 
> with minimum effort doesn't it.
>
> I assume the model is one of the first Air-Electric PCCs for LA  --  if it 
> is the later Air Car
> then the door configuration will be wrong for virtually all other PCCs 
> won't it.  LA cars
> did have blinkers so this will work nicely for the Pittsburgh paint 
> schemes.
>
> The paint schemes seem to be  'decently' represented don't they:
>
> First Group we hope to release sometime in the  Fall 2008
> Retail Price  $159.98
>
> 0001-093001  Los Angeles Car # 3001 (Two Tone yellow)
> 0001-093002  Philadelphia (Philly Cream Cheese scheme)
> 0001-093003  Brooklyn Car #   (Tan) (Has Next Car Light)**
> 0001-093004  Chicago (Green Hornet Scheme)
> 0001-093005  Pittsburg (Red and Cream Scheme)
> 0001-093006  San Fran. Muni "Magic Carpet Scheme" (Has Next Car Light)**
>
>
> 2nd Group of PCC Cars to be released Winter 2008 / 09
> 0001-093007  Join Civil Defense Car (Flag Blue / white / Red)
> 0001-093008  Pacific Electric (Red / orange) (Has Next Car Light)**
> 0001-093009  D.C. Transit
> 0001-093010  Philladephia Orange/ Blue
> 0001-093011  Baltimore
> 0001-093012  Boston Elevated Railway
> The HO PCC cars listed below, are fully painted in the color
> scheme listed,
> but no lettering applied, for those of you who might
> want to decal a car for
> your own city, or private transit system.
>
>
> 0001-093050  Orange and Tan
> --best choice if you want to repaint to different color
> --just use the Orange and Tan as primer coat
>
> 0001-093051  LA Two Tone yellow paint- no printing)
> 0001-093052  Philadelphia (Philly Cream Cheese paint scheme-no printing)
> 0001-093053  Brooklyn Car   (Tan paint - no printing ) Has "Next Car 
> Light" **
> 0001-093054  Chicago (Green Hornet Scheme) -no printing
> 0001-093055  Pittsburg (Red and Cream Scheme) -no printing
> 0001-093056  San Fran. Muni "Magic Carpet Scheme" -no printing Has "Next 
> Car Light" **
>
>
> 2nd Group of "no printing" cars to be released Winter 2008 / 09
>
> 0001-093057  Red/White/Blue patriotic colors -no printing
> 0001-093058  Pacific Electric (Red / orange) -no printing (Has Next Car 
> light) **
> 0001-093059  D.C. Transit colors - no printing
> 0001-093060  Philladephia Orange/ Blue -no printing
> 0001-093061  Baltimore -colors - no printing
> 0001-093062  Boston- orange - no printing
> By contrast the Russian cars in "O"-Scale are specific for whatever system 
> one
> desires with an endless variety of modifications and paint schemes aren't 
> they.
>
>
> Phil
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message -------- 
> Subject: Re: "HO" PCC Streetcars
> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 13:10:51 -0700 (MST)
> From: concor at con-cor.com
> To: <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>
> References: <493D746E.9000003>
>
>
> models not ready to photograph till maybe end of Jan.
> when we have photos we will post on net.
> Model is of the LA car, single end only, we can not
> make multiple tooling for various car bodies and
> specific city differences.
>
> When making mass producted model we have to settle on
> basicly one design, can not do specific differences for
> each city.
>
> Will be up too customer if they want an exact specific
> city model, or will be happy with something that is close,
> but maybe not 100% exact.
>
> We know about "h", will be fixed..
>
> Thank you for your interest.
> Con-Cor Trains
>
>
>
>
>>      Hello!
>>
>>
>>  I just noted your offering of  HO  PCC  TrolleyCars:
>>
>>  http://all-railroads.com/PCC-Streetcars.html
>>
>>      I don't see a picture of the model  --
>> is it Single End or Double End?   Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,
>> has an "H" on the end which you omitted.   Additionally,
>> San Francisco and Pacific Electric did not have the
>> Next  Car  Light.
>>
>>  Are you confusing the catcher on the front dash for the
>> trolley rope with this light?        The picture you show
>> of San Francisco is a full-fledged double end PCC so it
>> does have trolley poles on both ends as well as dual
>> taillights on the dash below the windows but these are not
>> Next Car Lights.       This would be the cars 1001-1005
>> and 1006-1015.       The rest of the San Francisco
>> fleet  --  1016--1040,  1101--1170, and the current
>> ex-Septa PCCs in San Francisco are all Single End but
>> sport trolley poles and catchers on both ends.
>> Much overhead special work where it is safer to change
>> poles for backing maneuvers.
>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Richard Allman <allmanr at verizon.net>
>>
>> I wish that ConCor was doing more prototypic paint schemes besides the LA
>> Rwys original(like the later NCL and LAMTA ones), the Boston 3001, a
>> selection of Pittsburgh schemes-V front, simple cream and red, Torontoand
>> not bother w/ all the faux stuff-e.g., PE, Washington. And if only they 
>> had
>> listened to Bob and me and provided a sprue w/ blinker or folding doors,
>> large or small pole shroud, scalloped front windshield for Phila., KC or 
>> St.
>> Louis.
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "BobDietrich"
>> > To:
>> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:15 AM
>> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Con Cor International Ltd
>> >
>> >
>> >I wrote to Con-Cor a month ago about Pittsburg.  I got a nice reply 
>> >saying
>> > they would fix it immediately. Are they a government organization?
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> Dennis F. Cramer
>> >>
>> >> http://all-railroads.com/PCC-Streetcars.html
>> >> I guess Con-Cor does not realize that Pittsburgh has an "h" on the 
>> >> end.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Dennis F. Cramer
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