[PRCo] Fineview

[Bob Rathke]

I've been away for several weeks, and am getting back to the e-mails.
I grew up on the North Side, and spent many days in the early 1960's 
photographing the last years of trolleys there.  This included evenings with 
a tripod on E. Ohio St., Federal St. and North Ave. getting night shots.  I 
never felt in danger.  I assume things are different now.

In the 1965-66 period I made an effort to photograph route 21-Fineview 
trolleys at locations 100 feet apart along the line.  I didn't cover every 
inch of ROW, and sometimes I had to settle for every 200 ft., but I captured 
most of it.

I also tried to get the more scenic locations in different seasons.  I think 
I posted these photos before, but for the newcomers to the list, attached 
are a couple of photos I took along the paved PRW, away from the road on the 
outbound downgrade. The B&W summer photo of 1692 was taken on 5/25/64; the 
color winter photo of 1697 was taken at the exact same location on 1/29/66.

Considering the scenic views and short length of the trolley lines, I don't 
think that PAT would get away with abandoning routes 21 or 40 today.

Bob 12/11/08



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "BobDietrich" <bob.dietrich1 at verizon.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:03 AM
Subject: [PRCo] I rode 40 Mt. Worshington


>I suppose I have to admit to riding Rt. 40 once or twice, but not as a
> railfan.  I liked to watch the line poles zip by in the way up Southern 
> Ave.
> That was not a place to hang an arm out the window.  I am still amazed the
> way the center of the outbound car hung way over the curb at Southern &
> Natchez, people knew how far back to stand.
>
> For a few years I rode to St. Mary's school getting, off at Bingham St., 
> but
> I very seldom rode further than that and I don't remember it much except
> trying to get into the conductor's seat when we got a special car.  I 
> didn't
> experience the Olympia to Bingham hill very often on the streetcar.  I did
> ride my Schwinn through that section often enough.  We would ride down 
> full
> speed, on the sidewalk, and try to get to the top of the next hill without
> pedaling.  Going the opposite was it was full speed down and pump like 
> crazy
> to get to the top.  I made it once or twice. What is that grade?
>
> Fineview!  That was on the Nortside and you could get killed over there or
> even something worse, so we stayed away
>
> I guess I don't want to get deeper into my youth than that...
>
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of
> Schneider Fred
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 5:55 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Indian cultural differences
>
> I think most of us on the list probably rode 21 and 40.  I did.  I'm
> sure John Swindler did.
>
> On Dec 9, 2008, at 3:42 PM, Jerry MATT Matsick wrote:
>
>> What part of Pichburg is India?    Been reading these posts and
>> haven't found it on the PRCo map?
>> Anyway, got a question, any of our group ride the Fineview
>> route?    I am still kicking my boney butt
>> as to why I never took the time to ride it?      Another route
>> would have been the Mt Washington Car,
>> what a ride that must have been.   Shoulda coulda days are gone,
>> but would be great to hear from
>> those of you who might have?
>> Jerry Matsick
>> Jacksonville
>> --
>> From: Jerry "Matt" Matsick
>>
>> AGING: Eventually you will reach a point when you
>> stop lying about your age and start Bragging
>> about it.
>>
>> -------------- Original message from Derrick J Brashear
>> <shadow at dementia.org>: --------------
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, 9 Dec 2008, Edward H. Lybarger wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm getting awfully tired of India...and my delete key is white-hot.
>>>
>>> Don't look at me. I've said nothing of India.
>>>
>>> Airport Parkway, OTOH, guilty.
>>>
>>> I found in 1959 newspapers accounts of how it became limited
>>> access after
>>> a state decision, when before that it was just the county pleading
>>> with
>>> the townships to not allow development along it.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 


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