[PRCo] Re: Pen's get new luxury hotel

Jerry MATT Matsick mtoytrain at bellsouth.net
Wed Dec 17 19:33:17 EST 2008


Fred is absolutely correct about having a "Wet Dream and have to have a Trolley Line", through out the
fast growing South, just about every city is talking trolley line and many all ready have them, don't think
Jacksonville will have one all though over 1 million plus live here,, the population is to spread out.
one thing about Pittsburgh is the news or reports from first time visitors to the Burg tell me,  it would be
great to have a trolley to the strip or university section of the city, with the New Pen Arena and new
business and entertainment going in on Center Ave a trolley would make sense, but not CENTS!
J
From: Jerry "Matt" Matsick 

AGING: Eventually you will reach a point when you 
stop lying about your age and start Bragging 
about it.

-------------- Original message from Schneider Fred <fwschneider at comcast.net>: -------------- 


> I'm not going to disclose the name of the friend who wrote this other 
> than to say the man was in railway equipment engineering all his 
> life. It came in an e-mail this morning in response to my sending 
> him the announcement of one more "wet dream" about a streetcar 
> line. I think this last one might have been the people in Waco, 
> Texas saying, 'Hey man, we gots to have a trolley.' 
> "One thing about this emerging development: I am getting a clearer 
> understanding of how streetcar systems over-expanded in the early 
> 1900s. We are seeing the exact same phenomenon now...streetcars have 
> suddenly become the definition of what a modern city should have, and 
> unknowledgable city fathers are all pushing them without any clear 
> business plan for whether it makes sense for their city. The only 
> difference is that now it's governmental money (us) instead of 
> gullible private investors." 
> 
> I can predict that Ken Josephson will agree with him. Jerry might 
> not. And I'm going to say I want the limited tax dollars put where 
> they are making sense, that is in cities that are expanding and 
> proving that rail is making sense and most of those, sadly for most 
> of us, are well to the west of the Mississippi River. I'm having a 
> problem with putting it in places like Buffalo, St. Louis, Detroit or 
> Pittsburgh, where there are massive population declines, and then 
> proving that it works by having artificially low fares. 
> 
> Now if you can figure how to get someone to invest 100,000 high end 
> new jobs in Allegheny County.... (No that would be too many, in 
> the end it would result in a million more people.) 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 17, 2008, at 12:27 PM, Derrick J Brashear wrote: 
> 
> > On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, Jerry MATT Matsick wrote: 
> > 
> >> Perhaps the stir of new Center Avenue area Hotel will convince the 
> >> city 
> >> to put a new street car line in? 
> > 
> > When a local libertarian proposed a streetcar line on South 21st St 
> > I knew 
> > they had some broader appeal. Still, as a realist, "not gonna happen" 
> > 
> > I passed the site less than 24 hours ago. Right now the old 
> > hopsital is 
> > just a big hole. 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 





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