[PRCo] Re: Gas Prices

[Edward H. Lybarger]

Another example of why idealogues will always fail.  Without compromise and
some respect for the other fellow's point of view (or at least his right to
have it!), we don't achieve anything that works.

Ed 

-----Original Message-----
From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of John
Swindler
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 11:03 AM
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Gas Prices

 
 
Didn't the British try this a half century ago, only to see people moving
off shore to avoid a marginal tax rate around 98%???  (would appreciate
correction as this is extremely fuzzy)  And with today's communication
capabilities, might be even easier to move off shore - or to another state.
Fred and I both know someone who has considered leaving New Jersey due to
high tax rates.
 
My hope is that big business and big government 'fight it out' to our
advantage.  My fear is that they too often collaborate.  That's why I said I
was being unrealistic in the world in which we live.  
 
John
> From: trams2 at comcast.net> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> Subject:
[PRCo] Re: Gas Prices> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:37:17 -0500> > You can also
do it through tax policy, but it wouldn't sit too well to put a> 100% income
tax on incomes in excess of x dollars. There would be a big> fight over what
x should be. You can also remove the deductibility of> certain items from
corporate income. Then someone clever finds a loophole> that was
unintentionally (or intentionally) left in the law.> > -----Original
Message-----> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org>
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of John>
Swindler> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:01 AM> To:
pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Gas Prices> > > I
rather like the 'balance of power' where government has safety oversight>
and/or regulation to try to balance out unlimited profit motive. OK, so>
that can be very unrealistic in the world in which we live.!
 > > Cheers> John> > > > From: trams2 at comcast.net> To:
pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> Subject:> [PRCo] Re: Gas Prices> Date:
Tue, 30 Dec 2008 08:54:11 -0500> > If you> remove the profit motive, you
remove the incentive for any kind of> quality> or service. But you also get
in trouble when there is unlimited> profit> motive, because in the hubris,
the recognized need for those> qualities gets> lost.> > As with everything
else, the best position is somewhere in the> middle.> > Ed> > -----Original
Message-----> From:> pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org>>
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of John>>
Swindler> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:37 AM> To:>
pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Gas Prices> > > > We>
already have an example of socialized medicine in this country. It's>
called> the Veteran's Administration. > > I've heard some good stories about
the VA,> particularly the one in Lebanon,> but also too many h!
 orror stories. Also,> there were thre!> e incidents over> past 12-15 m
onths of patients being ignored in emergency> rooms to die. All> three
happened in government run facilities. I'd rather> be able to schedule> an
appointment at Lancaster General instead of being> put on a VA waiting>
list.> > John> > > > > Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:50:18> -0800> From:
pcc_sr at yahoo.com> Subject:> [PRCo] Re: Gas Prices> To:>
pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > > -----> Original Message ----> > >>
From: John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com>> > >> > > > My wife went on a>
mission trip to Novosibirsk several> > years ago,> and at a get-together>
showed a picture of our > > house. The 'locals' wanted> to know on which>
floor was> > our apartment located. She felt embarrassed> telling them> >>
that we lived in the entire house. And our > > square> footage is smaller>
then the average.> > When living in San Francisco in the> 1980s I attended>
a> church which had a big missionary project to Russia> as> well as Russian>
immigrants here. Mention a t!> rip> to the sup!
 er market and> they begged to go along. They> were cons> tantly astonished
at the variety we> have here.> > The battle cry of> protesters coming out of
the hippy era> was> 'food for people not for> profit.' Remove the profit>
incentive and there> goes our variety doesn!> 't> it. That's why> I give
pause to 'socialized' medicine. As I mentioned>> before> we seem to have
much better health care in some respects> than>> Britain. But 'if' we go
socialized method I shall> probably be pushing up>> the daisies by then.> >
> Phil> > > > > >>>
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