[PRCo] Re: Gas Prices

[Ken and Tracie]

Amen!

K.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams2 at comcast.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:27 AM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Gas Prices


> Another example of why idealogues will always fail.  Without compromise 
> and
> some respect for the other fellow's point of view (or at least his right 
> to
> have it!), we don't achieve anything that works.
>
> Ed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of John
> Swindler
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 11:03 AM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Gas Prices
>
>
>
> Didn't the British try this a half century ago, only to see people moving
> off shore to avoid a marginal tax rate around 98%???  (would appreciate
> correction as this is extremely fuzzy)  And with today's communication
> capabilities, might be even easier to move off shore - or to another 
> state.
> Fred and I both know someone who has considered leaving New Jersey due to
> high tax rates.
>
> My hope is that big business and big government 'fight it out' to our
> advantage.  My fear is that they too often collaborate.  That's why I said 
> I
> was being unrealistic in the world in which we live.
>
> John
>> From: trams2 at comcast.net> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> Subject:
> [PRCo] Re: Gas Prices> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:37:17 -0500> > You can 
> also
> do it through tax policy, but it wouldn't sit too well to put a> 100% 
> income
> tax on incomes in excess of x dollars. There would be a big> fight over 
> what
> x should be. You can also remove the deductibility of> certain items from
> corporate income. Then someone clever finds a loophole> that was
> unintentionally (or intentionally) left in the law.> > -----Original
> Message-----> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org>
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of John>
> Swindler> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:01 AM> To:
> pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Gas Prices> > > I
> rather like the 'balance of power' where government has safety oversight>
> and/or regulation to try to balance out unlimited profit motive. OK, so>
> that can be very unrealistic in the world in which we live.!
> > > Cheers> John> > > > From: trams2 at comcast.net> To:
> pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> Subject:> [PRCo] Re: Gas Prices> Date:
> Tue, 30 Dec 2008 08:54:11 -0500> > If you> remove the profit motive, you
> remove the incentive for any kind of> quality> or service. But you also 
> get
> in trouble when there is unlimited> profit> motive, because in the hubris,
> the recognized need for those> qualities gets> lost.> > As with everything
> else, the best position is somewhere in the> middle.> > Ed> 
>  > -----Original
> Message-----> From:> pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org>>
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of John>>
> Swindler> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:37 AM> To:>
> pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Gas Prices> > > > 
> We>
> already have an example of socialized medicine in this country. It's>
> called> the Veteran's Administration. > > I've heard some good stories 
> about
> the VA,> particularly the one in Lebanon,> but also too many h!
> orror stories. Also,> there were thre!> e incidents over> past 12-15 m
> onths of patients being ignored in emergency> rooms to die. All> three
> happened in government run facilities. I'd rather> be able to schedule> an
> appointment at Lancaster General instead of being> put on a VA waiting>
> list.> > John> > > > > Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:50:18> -0800> From:
> pcc_sr at yahoo.com> Subject:> [PRCo] Re: Gas Prices> To:>
> pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > > -----> Original Message ----> > >>
> From: John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com>> > >> > > > My wife went on 
> a>
> mission trip to Novosibirsk several> > years ago,> and at a get-together>
> showed a picture of our > > house. The 'locals' wanted> to know on which>
> floor was> > our apartment located. She felt embarrassed> telling them> >>
> that we lived in the entire house. And our > > square> footage is smaller>
> then the average.> > When living in San Francisco in the> 1980s I 
> attended>
> a> church which had a big missionary project to Russia> as> well as 
> Russian>
> immigrants here. Mention a t!> rip> to the sup!
> er market and> they begged to go along. They> were cons> tantly astonished
> at the variety we> have here.> > The battle cry of> protesters coming out 
> of
> the hippy era> was> 'food for people not for> profit.' Remove the profit>
> incentive and there> goes our variety doesn!> 't> it. That's why> I give
> pause to 'socialized' medicine. As I mentioned>> before> we seem to have
> much better health care in some respects> than>> Britain. But 'if' we go
> socialized method I shall> probably be pushing up>> the daisies by then.> 
>  >
>> Phil> > > > > >>>
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