[PRCo] Re: Gas Prices

Tue Dec 30 15:31:54 EST 2008

When your property tax bill comes in at $10,000 a year, you too would  
consider leaving New Jersey.  The same house in Lancaster would taxed  
at 25% of that.

I always felt sorry for brother-in-law and sister-in-law who lived in  
Summit, NJ and paid even higher property taxes.  But when your job  
was in the World Trade Center, it was hard not to live within  
commuting distance.   It was either pay the taxes or live in  
Manhattan and pay for private schools for the kids.

On Dec 30, 2008, at 11:03 AM, John Swindler wrote:

>
>
> Didn't the British try this a half century ago, only to see people  
> moving off shore to avoid a marginal tax rate around 98%???  (would  
> appreciate correction as this is extremely fuzzy)  And with today's  
> communication capabilities, might be even easier to move off shore  
> - or to another state.  Fred and I both know someone who has  
> considered leaving New Jersey due to high tax rates.
>
> My hope is that big business and big government 'fight it out' to  
> our advantage.  My fear is that they too often collaborate.  That's  
> why I said I was being unrealistic in the world in which we live.
>
> John
>> From: trams2 at comcast.net> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>  
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Gas Prices> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:37:17  
>> -0500> > You can also do it through tax policy, but it wouldn't  
>> sit too well to put a> 100% income tax on incomes in excess of x  
>> dollars. There would be a big> fight over what x should be. You  
>> can also remove the deductibility of> certain items from corporate  
>> income. Then someone clever finds a loophole> that was  
>> unintentionally (or intentionally) left in the law.> > ----- 
>> Original Message-----> From: pittsburgh-railways- 
>> bounce at lists.dementia.org> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways- 
>> bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of John> Swindler> Sent:  
>> Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:01 AM> To: pittsburgh- 
>> railways at dementia.org> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Gas Prices> > > I  
>> rather like the 'balance of power' where government has safety  
>> oversight> and/or regulation to try to balance out unlimited  
>> profit motive. OK, so> that can be very unrealistic in the world  
>> in which we live.!
>>> Cheers> John> > > > From: trams2 at comcast.net> To: pittsburgh- 
>>> railways at dementia.org> Subject:> [PRCo] Re: Gas Prices> Date:  
>>> Tue, 30 Dec 2008 08:54:11 -0500> > If you> remove the profit  
>>> motive, you remove the incentive for any kind of> quality> or  
>>> service. But you also get in trouble when there is unlimited>  
>>> profit> motive, because in the hubris, the recognized need for  
>>> those> qualities gets> lost.> > As with everything else, the best  
>>> position is somewhere in the> middle.> > Ed> > -----Original  
>>> Message-----> From:> pittsburgh-railways- 
>>> bounce at lists.dementia.org>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways- 
>>> bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of John>> Swindler> Sent:  
>>> Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:37 AM> To:> pittsburgh- 
>>> railways at dementia.org> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Gas Prices> > > > We>  
>>> already have an example of socialized medicine in this country.  
>>> It's> called> the Veteran's Administration. > > I've heard some  
>>> good stories about the VA,> particularly the one in Lebanon,> but  
>>> also too many h!
>  orror stories. Also,> there were thre!> e incidents over> past  
> 12-15 m
> onths of patients being ignored in emergency> rooms to die. All>  
> three happened in government run facilities. I'd rather> be able to  
> schedule> an appointment at Lancaster General instead of being> put  
> on a VA waiting> list.> > John> > > > > Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008  
> 14:50:18> -0800> From: pcc_sr at yahoo.com> Subject:> [PRCo] Re: Gas  
> Prices> To:> pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > > -----> Original  
> Message ----> > >> From: John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com>> >  
> >> > > > My wife went on a> mission trip to Novosibirsk several> >  
> years ago,> and at a get-together> showed a picture of our > >  
> house. The 'locals' wanted> to know on which> floor was> > our  
> apartment located. She felt embarrassed> telling them> >> that we  
> lived in the entire house. And our > > square> footage is smaller>  
> then the average.> > When living in San Francisco in the> 1980s I  
> attended> a> church which had a big missionary project to Russia>  
> as> well as Russian> immigrants here. Mention a t!> rip> to the sup!
>  er market and> they begged to go along. They> were cons> tantly  
> astonished at the variety we> have here.> > The battle cry of>  
> protesters coming out of the hippy era> was> 'food for people not  
> for> profit.' Remove the profit> incentive and there> goes our  
> variety doesn!> 't> it. That's why> I give pause to 'socialized'  
> medicine. As I mentioned>> before> we seem to have much better  
> health care in some respects> than>> Britain. But 'if' we go  
> socialized method I shall> probably be pushing up>> the daisies by  
> then.> > > Phil> > > > > >>>  
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