[PRCo] Re: PTM West Penn cars

trams2 at comcast.net trams2 at comcast.net
Fri Feb 8 10:20:16 EST 2008


722 would never have had green paint.  It was too new...1921.
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From: John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
>  
> Hi Ed
>  
> There is a pix of 739 partially re-painted on Bruce Wells' website of the 'Blimp 
> Hanger cars".  Thought there was also a 3/4 view of the car as currently 
> repainted.
>  
> Might also be some pix of 739 on the roster page of PTM's website, but these are 
> a bit older.
>  
> If someone is really serious about the shade of green in the early years, 
> perhaps a paint chip from 722 will give a hint.  Would suspect there is a 50/50 
> chance that green paint was not stripped from the cars prior to repainting in 
> orange.  Just a guess. 
>  
> John
>  
>  
> > From: trams2 at comcast.net> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> Subject: 
> [PRCo] Re: PTM West Penn cars> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 07:32:27 -0500> > It was I 
> who misunderstood! Yes, one side of 739 has been partially> painted. No work has 
> occurred on the windows, though, and no real body work> was done beforehand. I 
> don't know how much of it I can get in the frame> with the distance available, 
> but next time I'm up at the TDB with my camera,> I'll try. It's an 18mm 
> (translates to 27mm on the digital camera) lens but> I think it will still take 
> two photos.> > 832 has received no paint since about 1948. It will be moving to 
> the shop> sometime this summer for rebuilding, so new paint is probably 
> scheduled for> 2011-12!> > The 200s were originally maroon, but about 1905 West 
> Penn chose a new> bluish-green because it stood up better under the coke oven 
> emissions (there> is actually a news article about this) and didn't require as 
> frequent> repainting. Everything was then painted that!
>   way, but in 1917 the color was> changed to orange for better visibility as a 
> result of a fatal accident. A> motorist couldn't see a green car coming out of 
> the woods. It took several> years to get the fleet repainted, but the orange 
> stayed until the end.> > Too bad there was no color film available to the masses 
> in the 1900-1917> era.> > -----Original Message-----> From: 
> pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org> 
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT R> 
> ROCKWELL> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:51 PM> To: 
> pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> Subject: [PRCo] Re: PTM West Penn cars> > 
> Sorry, Ed, maybe I misunderstood. I thought I read that one side of 832 and> the 
> 700 car had been repainted at PTM and that current paint job is what I> was 
> referring to here.> As for other eras, I always wondered what color 212 was when 
> it was a very> dark color with large maybe gold or white lettering (no triangle 
> logo).> Orange book p 20.> > > > Robe!
>  rt Rockwell> w3syt1 at msn.com<mailto:w3syt1 at msn.com>> ----- Original Mes
> sage -----> From: Edward H. Lybarger<mailto:trams2 at comcast.net>> To:> 
> pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org<mailto:pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>> Sent: 
> Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:24 PM> Subject: [PRCo] Re: PTM West Penn cars> > > 
> 700s? 830s? Year (or era) of repaint? I need more information!> > -----Original 
> Message-----> From:> 
> pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org<mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bou> 
> nce at lists.dementia.org>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] 
> On Behalf Of ROBERT> R> ROCKWELL> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:46 PM> 
> To: pittsburgh-railways> Subject: [PRCo] PTM West Penn cars> > Does anyone have 
> a pix of the repainted WP cars (full side view) ?> > Robert Rockwell> > 
> w3syt1 at msn.com<mailto:w3syt1 at msn.com<mailto:w3syt1 at msn.com%3Cmailto:w3syt1 at m> 
> sn.com>>> > > > > > > > > 
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