[PRCo] Re: Smith Siding

Mon Jan 14 19:39:48 EST 2008

  My apologies, Phil. I was looking at the linear maps(or as Tom Phillips called them plate maps) of the interurban lines that were included with our tour package. It points out Morse Steps as directly north of the trestle. This must be a mistake then. I do recall now Jim Holland telling me that what I once thought as Morse Steps Stop was in actuality McKinley Park Stop. Just my own personal memories were incorrect and I'm glad you corrected my mistake. Thanks!

P.S.- Don't have this 1963 map which you speak of Phil. I don't believe I have the one Herb speaks of either.

-- Phillip Clark Campbell <pcc_sr at yahoo.com> wrote:
This is correct; Morse is about in the middle of the single track section north of the bridge isn't it.      The stop at the north end of the trestle is McKinley Park stop.       Much of my info on trollies is packed away isn't it so I don't know nor remember when the sidings were installed.

Phil

----- Original Message ----
From: John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 12:46:37 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Smith Siding

I thought Morse was on the single track section, and then there was a
 stop at north end of McKinley Park trestle.  South of the trestle was
 the siding, with no stops.  

Used McKinley several times on Sunday/Holiday pass riding.  Good spot
 to get off to try for pic of car crossing the trestle.  Wish I'd tried
 Bon Air and Morse a few times for photo op purpuses.

John

> From: macmarka at netzero.net> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:15:20 +0000>
 To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> 
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Smith Siding> >

Thanks, Phil! The only problem I see with your explaination is that
 there was not a McKinley Park Stop as far as I know. Heading south there
 was a stop called Morse Steps directly before the trestle. This can be
 confused as McKinley Park Stop as the Park was right under the
 trestle(as well as the road), followed by McKinley Park Siding(large retaining
 wall next to it). I even have a 1990's photo of the Morse Steps Stop
 being incorrectly labeled(by PAT) Morris Steps. I found it rather amusing
 that PAT didn't even know the correct name. > One more question....
 Were the new sidings(McKinley Park and Edgebrook)added after the
 interurbans were truncated or while they were still in their waning months(or
 weeks)? I know they were added in 1953 but when in 1953?> > -- Phillip
 Clark Campbell <pcc_sr at yahoo.com> wrote:> If Mr.McGuire is standing!
  at Smith 'looking north' then he is looking toward the siding, isn't
 this correct. Riding the interurban southbound it crosses
 Reflectorville trestle, immediately goes into the siding, leaves the siding,
 negotiates a reverse S curve, coming out of this curve it crosses the road
 then the passenger stop of Smith, hits the tangent with a right onto the
 trestle over Saw Mill Run doesn't it.> > The 1963 interurban map by
 Mr.Benedict shows it this way as well although not all the curves are there
 are they.> > Using this map here are the southbound features:> > Boggs
 on double track, Morse on single track, McKinley Park stop / trestle /
 siding.> > Single track to Bon Air siding and stop.> > Single track /
 Edgebrook siding.> > Single track, Edgebrook Stop, Reflectorville
 Trestle, then siding.> > Single track (S-turn) highway, Smith Stop, Saw Mill
 Overpass, then back to double track at Oak.> > > Phil> > > > > -----
 Original Message ----> From: Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net!
 >> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008
 3:50:14 PM> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Smith Siding> > > The siding is behind
 you, Mark, south of this intersection. What you> are describing is the
 precise view featured on the cover of PTM's 2007> calendar, at a
 no-longer-extant intersection along Denise Street. I'd have to> get into the
 city topos to tell you the name of the cross street.> > Ed> >
 -----Original Message-----> From:
 pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of>
 Mark> McGuire> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 5:46 PM> To:
 Pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> Subject: [PRCo] Smith Siding> > A
 simple question for those who know. Now I'm standing at Smith Stop> on the
 old Overbrook line looking north. There is a road crossing right
 there> that sort of goes diagonally across the tracks. Was Smith Siding to
 the> north (the direction I'm looking beyond the curve) or to the south
 (behind me)? If south, was it immediately after Smith Stop heading
 south(outbo!
 und)?> Thanks!> > > > > >
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