[PRCo] Re: Route 39 Brookline
Phillip Clark Campbell
pcc_sr at yahoo.com
Wed Jan 23 16:59:46 EST 2008
The equipment at Keating was shifted to south Hills after closure wasn't it. There are many photos of the North Side GE equipment in service in South Hills aren't there and I think there are some in the archives of this list. Didn't I read somewhere that interurban motormen didn't like these cars because it felt like the brake was floored when the power was released?
Phil
Where is this photo of 1795-39-Brookline model?
----- Original Message ----
From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Cc: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:45:28 AM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Route 39 Brookline
By the way, the photos of the model of 1795 with 39 BROOKLINE
destination sign probably would have never happened in the real
world. The 1790s were assigned to Keating car house and were
retired after Keating closed. Tunnel was a Westinghouse barn.
On Jan 23, 2008, at 10:17 AM, Gray, George wrote:
> On 6-4-2001 John Swindler posted the following in this group:
>
>
>> For Jim's benefit, also looked up A-13958 of 1925 which provides for
>> extension of the West Liberty and Suburban Street Railway route in
>> City
> of
>> Pittsburgh and Overbrook Boro. It didn't apply to 35/36/37, as
> suspected,
>> but to route 39-Brookline.
>
>> Under this application, PUC approved: extension of the West
>> Liberty and
>
>> Suburban Sreet Railway Co. over private of way, beginning at point
on
> curve
>> west of Birchwood Ave., then east 313 feet to city line, along
>> proposed
>
>> extension of Brookline Blvd., then east another 333 feet in
Overbrook
> Boro
>> to a loop. Purpose, according to testimony, was to service land
>> owned
> by
>> West Liberty Improvement Co., suited for residence purposes, and
> provide a
>> loop (for 39-Brookline cars). Total round trip distance listed as
> 2,000 ft.
>
>> So the 39 Brookline loop was not original, but later add-on.
>
>
>
> The extensive website on the Brookline community
> (http://www.spdconline.org/history/Trolleys/Trolleys.html) gives the
> following chronology.
>
>
>
> 1905 - single track trolley line through Brookline. Service went from
> the Brookline Junction (West Liberty Avenue) down the length of
> Brookline Boulevard, extending down through the wooded valley to
> Fairhaven, near the old Overbrook School at Saw Mill Run. This
> connected
> to the old Charleroi rail line that ran along Saw Mill Run. (The
> tunnel
> near Overbrook School at the far eastern edge of Brookline was
> built for
> that first trolley line, and the brackets for the power lines are
> still
> there, over 100 years later!)
>
>
>
> 1906 - the line was terminated at Edgebrook Ave.
>
>
>
> 1909 - work began on a double-track line that ran from the junction
at
> West Liberty Avenue past Edgebrook and Breining Street. It
> terminated at
> a trolley loop near Witt Street on the eastern end of Brookline
> Boulevard.
>
>
>
> So, does anyone know what the 1925 PUC application was about?
>
>
>
> George Gray
>
> Georgia Technology Authority
>
> 47 Trinity Avenue 1st Floor
>
> Atlanta, GA 30334
>
> 404-656-7327
>
>
>
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