[PRCo] Re: Route 39 Brookline

[Ken & Tracie]

This morning, I posted a photo of 1799 descending the ramp into West Liberty 
Avenue.

K.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phillip Clark Campbell" <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Cc: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:59 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Route 39 Brookline


> The equipment at Keating was shifted to south Hills after closure wasn't 
> it.  There are many photos of the North Side GE equipment in service in 
> South Hills aren't there and I think there are some in the archives of 
> this list.  Didn't I read somewhere that interurban motormen didn't like 
> these cars because it felt like the brake was floored when the power was 
> released?
> Phil
>
> Where is this photo of 1795-39-Brookline model?
>
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Cc: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:45:28 AM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Route 39 Brookline
>
>
> By the way, the photos of the model of 1795 with 39 BROOKLINE
> destination sign probably would have never happened in the real
> world.   The 1790s were assigned to Keating car house and were
> retired after Keating closed.   Tunnel was a Westinghouse barn.
>
> On Jan 23, 2008, at 10:17 AM, Gray, George wrote:
>
>> On 6-4-2001 John Swindler posted the following in this group:
>>
>>
>>> For Jim's benefit, also looked up A-13958 of 1925 which provides for
>>> extension of the West Liberty and Suburban Street Railway route in
>>> City
>> of
>>> Pittsburgh and Overbrook Boro.  It didn't apply to 35/36/37, as
>> suspected,
>>> but to route 39-Brookline.
>>
>>> Under this application, PUC approved: extension of the West
>>> Liberty and
>>
>>> Suburban Sreet Railway Co. over private of way, beginning at point
> on
>> curve
>>> west of Birchwood Ave., then east 313 feet to city line, along
>>> proposed
>>
>>> extension of Brookline Blvd., then east another 333 feet in
> Overbrook
>> Boro
>>> to a loop.  Purpose, according to testimony, was to service land
>>> owned
>> by
>>> West Liberty Improvement Co., suited for residence purposes, and
>> provide a
>>> loop (for 39-Brookline cars).  Total round trip distance listed as
>> 2,000 ft.
>>
>>> So the 39 Brookline loop was not original, but later add-on.
>>
>>
>>
>> The extensive website on the Brookline community
>> (http://www.spdconline.org/history/Trolleys/Trolleys.html) gives the
>> following chronology.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1905 - single track trolley line through Brookline. Service went from
>> the Brookline Junction (West Liberty Avenue) down the length of
>> Brookline Boulevard, extending down through the wooded valley to
>> Fairhaven, near the old Overbrook School at Saw Mill Run. This
>> connected
>> to the old Charleroi rail line that ran along Saw Mill Run. (The
>> tunnel
>> near Overbrook School at the far eastern edge of Brookline was
>> built for
>> that first trolley line, and the brackets for the power lines are
>> still
>> there, over 100 years later!)
>>
>>
>>
>> 1906 - the line was terminated at Edgebrook Ave.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1909 - work began on a double-track line that ran from the junction
> at
>> West Liberty Avenue past Edgebrook and Breining Street. It
>> terminated at
>> a trolley loop near Witt Street on the eastern end of Brookline
>> Boulevard.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, does anyone know what the 1925 PUC application was about?
>>
>>
>>
>> George Gray
>>
>> Georgia Technology Authority
>>
>> 47 Trinity Avenue 1st Floor
>>
>> Atlanta, GA 30334
>>
>> 404-656-7327
>>
>>
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