[PRCo] Re: 1717

Phillip Clark Campbell pcc_sr at yahoo.com
Sun Jan 27 21:10:28 EST 2008


Mr. Swindler  --  does this article have photos with it, in color?  This was the Roto section of the Sunday Pgh-Press wasn't it;  I may have that but don't know where do I.

1776 is a little more bicentennial than 1775 isn't it.  Weren't a few of the WH 1770s also missing - retired, scrapped before or during pat takeover?

It was always nice riding the Charleroi and Washington Interurbans; I really miss those rides don't I.

Phil



----- Original Message ----
From: John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 4:05:21 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: 1717

 
Not according to the local Pittsburgh newspaper, Fred.  And Early
 Action Program was much more then just TERL (Skybus).
 
It was a consultant that came up with three suggested color schemes for
 PAT around 1970.  One was a traditional horizontal livery.  The second
 was the vertical 'bread slice' scheme that was adopted.  The third was
 more radical.  
 
The PAT board voted to go with the vertical paint scheme, as
 illustrated by 1717, but one of the board members was quoted in the newspaper as
 saying "but we have to have one of these"  And that's how 1730
 eventually appeared as the "Mod Desire" trolley, or "Gee whiz, gosh and golly,
 look at that far out trolley".  (title from news article) 
 
Six basic colors were authorized:  red, orange, yellow, dark green,
 dark blue, and probably white.  Any other colors were later add-ons.  
 
But HHG was instrumental in making it happen. 
 
So why did 1616 become 1776 (aka "opps - we can't count")
 
John
 
 
> From: fwschneider at comcast.net> Subject: [PRCo] Re: 1717> Date: Sun,
 27 Jan 2008 18:07:09 -0500> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org;
 pcc_sr at yahoo.com> > Sadly, Harold Geissenheimer, who was responsible
 for all those > colorful PCC cars in the 1970s is not in good health. He
 got a lot > of good media coverage because of them.> > Carl Salley, who
 ran the Early Action Program for the Port Authority > (the Skybus
 proposal) is near death of cancer in an Allentown, > Pennsylvania
 hospital.> > On Jan 27, 2008, at 5:32 PM, Phillip Clark Campbell wrote:> > >
 http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?40041> >> >> >> > The net is a
 nice place isn't it. Just found this photo which is a > > reminder of more
 wonderful times when 1717 ran to Washington; if I > > could find my
 notes I may have ridden this car to Washington. > > Great graffiti artist
 as well isn't he.> >> >> >> >> >> > Phil>



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