[PRCo] Re: 1717

[John Swindler]

Concerning the Pittsburgh Press article, I have the same problem - it's filed somewhere, but I dont' know where.  Only reason I recall the article is because I remember reading it again some 20 years ago during a periodic attempt at filing.
 
As for 1616:  The Early Action Program included funding to rehab 70 PCC cars in the 1700-1774 series for continued service on Overbrook-Library.  Except someone forgot to count how many all-electric PCC cars were in the PAT fleet.  So 1616 was renumbered 1776 in 1972.  The rest of the surviving 1600s were overhauled under a different funding project.  
 
SEPTA did the same thing - received funding to rehab 29 PCC cars for bi-centenial service.  These were the Kansas City cars.  Except there were only 27 on the property.  But who's counting.  
 
But these are instances where the taxpayers actually got something of value.  You really don't want to know anything about the Boston PCC rebuild programs.
 
John
 
 
 
> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 18:10:28 -0800> From: pcc_sr at yahoo.com> Subject: [PRCo] Re: 1717> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > Mr. Swindler -- does this article have photos with it, in color? This was the Roto section of the Sunday Pgh-Press wasn't it; I may have that but don't know where do I.> > 1776 is a little more bicentennial than 1775 isn't it. Weren't a few of the WH 1770s also missing - retired, scrapped before or during pat takeover?> > It was always nice riding the Charleroi and Washington Interurbans; I really miss those rides don't I.> > Phil> > > > ----- Original Message ----> From: John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 4:05:21 PM> Subject: [PRCo] Re: 1717> > > Not according to the local Pittsburgh newspaper, Fred. And Early> Action Program was much more then just TERL (Skybus).> > It was a consultant that came up with three suggested color schemes for> PAT around 1970. One was a traditional horizontal livery. The second> was the vertical 'bread slice' scheme that was adopted. The third was> more radical. > > The PAT board voted to go with the vertical paint scheme, as> illustrated by 1717, but one of the board members was quoted in the newspaper as> saying "but we have to have one of these" And that's how 1730> eventually appeared as the "Mod Desire" trolley, or "Gee whiz, gosh and golly,> look at that far out trolley". (title from news article) > > Six basic colors were authorized: red, orange, yellow, dark green,> dark blue, and probably white. Any other colors were later add-ons. > > But HHG was instrumental in making it happen. > > So why did 1616 become 1776 (aka "opps - we can't count")> > John> > > > From: fwschneider at comcast.net> Subject: [PRCo] Re: 1717> Date: Sun,> 27 Jan 2008 18:07:09 -0500> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org;> pcc_sr at yahoo.com> > Sadly, Harold Geissenheimer, who was responsible> for all those > colorful PCC cars in the 1970s is not in good health. He> got a lot > of good media coverage because of them.> > Carl Salley, who> ran the Early Action Program for the Port Authority > (the Skybus> proposal) is near death of cancer in an Allentown, > Pennsylvania> hospital.> > On Jan 27, 2008, at 5:32 PM, Phillip Clark Campbell wrote:> > >> http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?40041> >> >> >> > The net is a> nice place isn't it. Just found this photo which is a > > reminder of more> wonderful times when 1717 ran to Washington; if I > > could find my> notes I may have ridden this car to Washington. > > Great graffiti artist> as well isn't he.> >> >> >> >> >> > Phil>> > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________> Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping> > 
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