[PRCo] Re: Next Car Light Question

[Phillip Clark Campbell]

Mr. Matsick;

Body language of intending passengers says alot, doesn't it.  We can miss such when we as railfans are watching the Interurban.  This is still used by transit today.  A driver doesn't reject a passenger just because he doesn't know that individual as a regular as there are always new passengers aren't there.  The body language of a new passenger helps in this regard and if unsure the professional driver will stop just to make sure.  I don't remember any express service that far south and certainly not on Sunday.  There could always be a Sunday Only stop for Donora locals and not for the Interurban but your info here refutes that.  Too many variables isn't there for us to make a valid determination today.  Best 'guess' is that body language usually tells the Interurban motorman to continue but there was uncertainty at times so the same car stopped.


Phil




----- Original Message ----
> From: Jerry MATT Matsick <mtoytrain at bellsouth.net>
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 6:43:25 AM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Next Car Light Question
> 
> John
> It wasn't Art waiting for the car, it was my family and another family both from 
> Donora, and I don't think
> the Charleroi Car driver knew where we were from?    We were passed by several 
> times and at other
> times the Charleroi car stopped?    
> Jerry Matsick
> --
> From the RIVER CITY by the Sea! 
> Jerry "Matt" Matsick 
> J A C K S O N V I L L E, Florida ! 
> 
> 
> -------------- Original message from John Swindler : 
> -------------- 
> 
> 
> > Hi Art 
> > 
> > Were you the only ones waiting for the car?? 
> > Drivers/motormen tend to know their customers when service is infrequent and 
> they have picked a particular run. They knew your mother and they knew where she 
> was going on a Sunday morning. You were watching the trolley - you were not 
> watching to see if your mother signaled the motorman she did not want the 
> > Charleroi car. 
> > That's one of the problems I have when visiting small systems - getting the 
> driver to stop at the bus stop. He knows his customers, and I'm not one of them. 
> That's why, when I set up the appointment, I tell the manager that it's 
> > ok to let his driver's know that a stranger will ride a couple of the trips. 
> > 
> > John 
> > > From: trams2 at comcast.net> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> Subject: 
> [PRCo] Re: Next Car Light Question> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:38:13 -0400> > 
> Perhaps Tom Phillips could shed some light on this. > > -----Original 
> Message-----> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org> 
> > [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Fred> 
> > Schneider> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 4:24 PM> To: 
> > pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Next Car Light Question> 
> > 
> > Have no idea. Perhaps he knew your mother was a Donora passenger? > Perhaps at 
> 
> > certain hours the Donora cars did the local work in > Monongahela? (Remember 
> > that the Castle Shannon cars did all the > local work in the rush hours 
> between 
> > Pittsburgh and Frederick > Street). I never saw anything in the timetable 
> about 
> > Donora cars > running local and it does not make sense because there could 
> have 
> > been> people who would have wanted to get on and go to Charleroi so my thought 
> 
> > is> that the motor! 
> > man recognized the people. I've given you > the speculative answer. The honest 
> 
> > answer is Fred doesn't know.> > > On Jul 11, 2008, at 4:09 PM, Jerry MATT 
> > Matsick wrote:> > > Fred -> > When I was just a youngster in the 1940s we 
> would 
> > ride a Donora car to > > Monongahela and attend a church there, upon return we 
> 
> > would stand > > across the street from the FBC in Monongahela and> > The 
> > Charleroi car would come by and not stop? We would wait and > > get on the 
> > Donora car? Why would> > the Charleroi car not stop?> > --> > From the RIVER 
> > CITY by the Sea!> > Jerry "Matt" Matsick> > J A C K S O N V I L L E, Florida 
> !> 
> > >> > > > 
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