[PRCo] Re: Destination Numbers Effective March 1, 1914

[Edward H. Lybarger]

 Fair Haven (route 36) was apparently a turnback at Frederick (Glenbury)
Street on Route 37-Shannon.  Frederick Street is at the junction of PA
highways 51 and 88, and would have been a high traffic point even before
those roads were numbered.

Route 42's name was Beechview initially because Dormont hardly existed.
Even by 1914, it was out in the country, while the Beechview neighborhood
was much more developed.  Route 43, turning at Neeld Avenue loop, became the
latter-day Beechview rush hour short turn.  Remember, we have to interpret
history in its own time, not the present.

Certain trips short turned Downtown to save time and offer value to patrons.
Route 45 was one of these.

49-Beltzhoover was renamed 46-Brownsville (don't know when) and re-renamed
49-Beltzhoover about 1946.  It never became 48-Arlington as stated
elsewhere.

Ed

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Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 10:20 PM
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Subject: [PRCo] Re: Destination Numbers Effective March 1, 1914


On Jun 7, 2008, at 9:33 PM, Phillip Clark Campbell wrote:

> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net>
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:35:31 AM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Destination Numbers Effective March 1, 1914
>>
>> Attached are two files that together contain the entire advertisement 
>> that appeared in the Pittsburgh Post on April 7, 1914 on behalf of 
>> Pittsburgh Railways Company.  It outlines the new destination numbers 
>> that went into effect April 1, 1914.
>>
>> I think it's apparent that not all routes reveived destination 
>> numbers at this time...probably had to do with traffic volumes, or 
>> perhaps with hours of operations.  Someone needs to read the news 
>> reports from the first of April.
>>
>> Or perhaps this was all a big April Fool's joke?
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
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> http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/Destination%
> 20Numbers%20Ad%203-7-14%20Top.jpg
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> http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/Destination%
> 20Numbers%20Ad%203-7-14%20Bottom.jpg
>
> These are interesting Mr.Lybarger.
>
> Where would 17-High Bridge be on the North Side?  One tends to 
> associate high bridges with the East End.
>
> Assume the 21-Nunnery Hill is latter day Fineview.  Why the 
> distinction of Allegheny only?
>
> Do you know why Fair Haven was so noted on the Interurbans?  Why would 
> this location be important - then?  It has lost its distinction today 
> hasn't it.
>
> It would also seem that 42-Beechview and 43-Neeld would be the same; 
> what's the difference?
>
> What would be the significance of the 45-Knoxville 3rd Ave?  Short 
> Turn?  Downtown routings for various lines obviously changed a number 
> of times and maybe the 44 didn't go to the Union or PRR station at 
> this time.  I did see something somewhere that the 50- Carson was at 
> one time routed to PRR didn't I.
>
> 49-Beltzhoover is clearly indicated yet PCCs carried 46-Brownsville 
> for quite some time and the 46 here is different isn't it.
>
> The 72 and 92 seemed to be 'paired' as do the the 79 and 91 - very 
> interesting - also shows bidirectional traffic along Penn.
>
> Also interesting are the 89-Frankstown/22nd-St and 95-Sharpsburg/ 
> 22nd-St - curious about the needs for this service.
>
> Phil
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