[PRCo] Re: 3800 Series LOST

[Fred Schneider]

If memory serves, Bob Brown paid for 3756.

On May 7, 2008, at 8:38 AM, John Swindler wrote:

> Hi Herb
>
> Perhaps it was not a favorite car series with someone with deep  
> pockets?  And it was a single end car.
>
> If that was a consideration, and I would not be surprised if that  
> was (maybe we need to ask Art Ellis) it is remarkable that 1138 was  
> saved.  But with 1138, it might have been viewed as an opportunity  
> to save a PCC before a public authority took over.  And PRC, at  
> that point, might have been willing to give PTM/PRMA/PERC the  
> benefit of the doubt and quote an attractive price.  Just guessing.
>
> I was surprised at how few the membership was in the 1950s.  At  
> that time, the museum concept was in competition with those who's  
> focus was taking pictures of fantrip cars.  As others have said,  
> just be thankful for what did get saved.
>
> Suspect there was too much scrap value in a 3800 and WP 700s to be  
> affordable. After all, wasn't the typical wage then around a buck  
> an hour, or about $2,000 per year???
> Even 3756 barely made it to Arden.  Wasn't it a last minute  
> acquisition by an individual???
>
> There is a lot of speculation above that others more knowledgeable  
> should comment on.
>
> John> Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 22:28:35 -0700> From:  
> hrbran at sbcglobal.net> Subject: [PRCo] Re: 3800 Series LOST> To:  
> pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > So how does this explain why  
> PTM did not save a 3800 ??????> Fred Schneider  
> <fwschneider at comcast.net> wrote: It would cost money to buy, money  
> to move, it doesn't fit in > everyone's back yard, and the  
> neighbors don't particularly like such > toys in your back yard.> >  
> About 25 years ago Dave Hamley was projecting slides for my >  
> edification and enjoyment. Several of them showed a gasoline >  
> locomotive he once had stored in his garage in a nice suburban >  
> neighborhood outside of Pittsburgh. He had rolled it out into the >  
> driveway for the picture. In the background was a neighbor dressed  
> > in a white shirt. Dave proceeded to tell how he cranked up the >  
> engine. When the engine fired, all of the water that had >  
> accumulated in the exhaust system came up the stack. It washed the  
> > dirt out of the muffler and stack. The neighbor's!
>   white shirt was > no longer white.. It was never again white.  
> There was no bleach on > the market that could possibly make it  
> white. That should give > insights into why your neighbor might not  
> want any large steel > objects in your yard.> > In my township such  
> objects are simply forbidden by ordinance. We > are note even  
> permitted to work on our automobiles in our driveways > because of  
> one guy who collected too many cars.> > > On May 6, 2008, at 5:54  
> PM, Jerry Matt Matsick wrote:> > > Content-Type: text/plain> >  
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit> > Herb> > Good Buddy Mark and I  
> often talk about the reason a 3800 series car > > was> > not saved?  
> I remember them quite well in the late 40s and early > > 50s on  
> the> > Charleroi Interurban route! A Beautiful Car!> >> > --> >  
> From the River City by the Sea!> > Jerry "Matt" Matsick> >  
> "Jacksonville"> >> >> > -------------- Original message from Herb  
> Brannon > > > ---------------------------------> : -------------->  
> >> >> >> Since!
>   we are on the topic of "saved" PRCo cars.......> >> Why was a  
> 3800 se
> ries interurban never saved?? They were around > >> until 1950. It>  
> >> seems someone would have tried to get one off the scrap pile.>  
> >> Fred Schneider wrote:> >> PST 14 and 78 were not operational.  
> The other revenue fleet was> >> marked in service but not  
> everything was run. Of course that> >> excludes 4398, and  
> Pittsburgh 1100 series PCC and a whole lot of> >> stuff in the  
> Blimp Hanger which is not in the revenue fleet.> >>> >> On May 6,  
> 2008, at 9:33 AM, Jerry Matt Matsick wrote:> >>> >>> Mark M and  
> myself wonder what "cars" actually were operational this> >>> past  
> weekend? Both of us would have given anything to be there as> >>>  
> it looked like a fantastic time.> >>> -- > >>> From the River City  
> by the Sea!> >>> Jerry "Matt" Matsick> >>> "Jacksonville"> >>>> >>>  
> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Herb Brannon> >>> >> Greetings From America's  
> North Coast> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>  
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> http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/3800% > >  
> 20south%20of%20Charleroi.jpg> >> >> >> > > > > > Herb Brannon> >  
> Greetings From America's North Coast> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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