[PRCo] Re: 3800 Series LOST

[Edward H. Lybarger]

Brown and Scanlon (and maybe a third person) bought 3756.  Bowker paid for
1138. 

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[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Fred
Schneider
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 8:41 AM
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Subject: [PRCo] Re: 3800 Series LOST

If memory serves, Bob Brown paid for 3756.

On May 7, 2008, at 8:38 AM, John Swindler wrote:

> Hi Herb
>
> Perhaps it was not a favorite car series with someone with deep 
> pockets?  And it was a single end car.
>
> If that was a consideration, and I would not be surprised if that was 
> (maybe we need to ask Art Ellis) it is remarkable that 1138 was saved.  
> But with 1138, it might have been viewed as an opportunity to save a 
> PCC before a public authority took over.  And PRC, at that point, 
> might have been willing to give PTM/PRMA/PERC the benefit of the doubt 
> and quote an attractive price.  Just guessing.
>
> I was surprised at how few the membership was in the 1950s.  At that 
> time, the museum concept was in competition with those who's focus was 
> taking pictures of fantrip cars.  As others have said, just be 
> thankful for what did get saved.
>
> Suspect there was too much scrap value in a 3800 and WP 700s to be 
> affordable. After all, wasn't the typical wage then around a buck an 
> hour, or about $2,000 per year???
> Even 3756 barely made it to Arden.  Wasn't it a last minute 
> acquisition by an individual???
>
> There is a lot of speculation above that others more knowledgeable 
> should comment on.
>
> John> Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 22:28:35 -0700> From:  
> hrbran at sbcglobal.net> Subject: [PRCo] Re: 3800 Series LOST> To:  
> pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > So how does this explain why PTM 
> did not save a 3800 ??????> Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net> 
> wrote: It would cost money to buy, money to move, it doesn't fit in > 
> everyone's back yard, and the neighbors don't particularly like such > 
> toys in your back yard.> > About 25 years ago Dave Hamley was 
> projecting slides for my > edification and enjoyment. Several of them 
> showed a gasoline > locomotive he once had stored in his garage in a 
> nice suburban > neighborhood outside of Pittsburgh. He had rolled it 
> out into the > driveway for the picture. In the background was a 
> neighbor dressed
> > in a white shirt. Dave proceeded to tell how he cranked up the >
> engine. When the engine fired, all of the water that had > accumulated 
> in the exhaust system came up the stack. It washed the
> > dirt out of the muffler and stack. The neighbor's!
>   white shirt was > no longer white.. It was never again white.  
> There was no bleach on > the market that could possibly make it white. 
> That should give > insights into why your neighbor might not want any 
> large steel > objects in your yard.> > In my township such objects are 
> simply forbidden by ordinance. We > are note even permitted to work on 
> our automobiles in our driveways > because of one guy who collected 
> too many cars.> > > On May 6, 2008, at 5:54 PM, Jerry Matt Matsick 
> wrote:> > > Content-Type: text/plain> >
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit> > Herb> > Good Buddy Mark and I often 
> talk about the reason a 3800 series car > > was> > not saved?
> I remember them quite well in the late 40s and early > > 50s on
> the> > Charleroi Interurban route! A Beautiful Car!> >> > --> >
> From the River City by the Sea!> > Jerry "Matt" Matsick> > 
> "Jacksonville"> >> >> > -------------- Original message from Herb 
> Brannon > > > ---------------------------------> : -------------->
> >> >> >> Since!
>   we are on the topic of "saved" PRCo cars.......> >> Why was a 3800 
> se ries interurban never saved?? They were around > >> until 1950. It>
> >> seems someone would have tried to get one off the scrap pile.> Fred 
> >> Schneider wrote:> >> PST 14 and 78 were not operational.
> The other revenue fleet was> >> marked in service but not everything 
> was run. Of course that> >> excludes 4398, and Pittsburgh 1100 series 
> PCC and a whole lot of> >> stuff in the Blimp Hanger which is not in 
> the revenue fleet.> >>> >> On May 6, 2008, at 9:33 AM, Jerry Matt 
> Matsick wrote:> >>> >>> Mark M and myself wonder what "cars" actually 
> were operational this> >>> past weekend? Both of us would have given 
> anything to be there as> >>> it looked like a fantastic time.> >>> -- 
> > >>> From the River City by the Sea!> >>> Jerry "Matt" Matsick> >>> 
> "Jacksonville"> >>>> >>>
> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Herb Brannon> >>> >> Greetings From America's
> North Coast> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > -- Attached file removed by Ecartis and put at
> URL below --> > !
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> http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/3800% > > 
> 20south%20of%20Charleroi.jpg> >> >> >> > > > > > Herb Brannon> > 
> Greetings From America's North Coast> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
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