[PRCo] Re: the early years of PERC

[Bob Rathke]

I became acquainted with PERC starting in 1958, but being in college, and 
then living in Cleveland, I was an on-again/off-again member until the 
mid-1960's (I've been a member ever since).

I remember one of those meetings on Wood St. downtown in 1966 where the main 
topic of discussion was a trolley owned by one or more of the members, and 
stored at the Arden site.  The museum wanted to move the car to outdoor 
storage, and the owners were pleading their case to leave it indoors.  I 
think that Lou Redmond was one of the owners.  Does anyone know which car 
this was? I assume that car is now in the PRMA collection.

Bob 5/9/08

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Rathke" <bobrathke at comcast.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [PRCo] Re: the early years of PERC


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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams2 at comcast.net>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:58 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: the early years of PERC
>
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>> It was 1960.  I wasn't around and didn't ever know the primary 
>> complainer.
>> But Joe M. was certainly out of the picture!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Phillip
>> Clark Campbell
>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:35 PM
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: the early years of PERC
>>
>> Sounds very interesting, Mr.Lybarger - communists in the McCarthy era 
>> govt!
>>
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net>
>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>> Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 1:15:35 PM
>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: the early years of PERC
>>>
>>> The "Communists" running the government were telling them they
>>> couldn't be a club.  I wasn't suggesting they were LEGITIMATE concerns!
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Phillip Clark Campbell
>>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:03 PM
>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: the early years of PERC
>>>
>>> Mr.Lybarger!
>>>
>>>
>>> Could you please clarify; what were the concerns?
>>>
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> > From: Edward H. Lybarger
>>> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>> > Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 12:55:00 PM
>>> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: the early years of PERC
>>> >
>>> > That is correct.  And how a couple of the early members howled about 
>>> > it!
>>
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>>> > [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of
>>> > Phillip Clark Campbell
>>> > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 3:33 PM
>>> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: the early years of PERC
>>> >
>>> > Hi Mr.Bruhn!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > The operative word here is  'club'  --  Pittsburgh Electric Railway
>> Club.
>>> > Just guessing here but  'assume'  a  'club'  cannot have tax exempt
>>> > status thus the change to PRMA.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Phil
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message ----
>>> > > From: "Fredbruhn at aol.com"
>>> > > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 4:54:13 PM
>>> > > Subject: [PRCo] Re: the early years of PERC
>>> > >
>>> > > I guess it is time I throw my two cents worth in.  I joined up
>>> > > indirectly about 1958, and I may have even paid dues that early.
>>> > > I only  remember Redman, Bowker, Scanlon, Bartley, and Rinney
>>> > > Galbreath as
>>> > regular faces  at  the
>>> > > meetings at the Y on Wood Street.   Harry Bartley would  sit at a
>> small
>>> > desk
>>> > > just
>>> > > inside the room assigned to the meeting and have his  photos for 
>>> > > sale.
>>
>>> > > 1138 was Dick Bowker's decision, his car, but I can't  tell you
>>> > > why he picked that car.  Did 1138 run on Ardmore as that is where
>>> > > Dick lived,
>>> > perhaps still does.
>>> > >
>>> > > Other youngsters who would show up  included John Baginsky and
>>> > > Rick
>>> > Hannigan.
>>> > > John was active at Arden but  didn't survive a back operation
>>> > > about 1960.  I think Galbreath bought  M1, which John Wilkins
>>> > > sometime later rear ended with the West Penn loco or  another car.
>>> > > Rinney was a story in himself.  Lived in Taylorstown, Pa  and
>>> > > played the ladies within his own age group.  I heard he finally
>>> > > found  one with money and I never saw him  again.  As Ed said
>>> > > Brown owned  3756 and lived in Phila. by 1958 or so.  I wasn't
>>> > > aware that Scanlon was
>>> > >
>>> > > part of that ownership.  In 59 or 60 Rick, John and I went with
>>> > > Scanlon to visit 722 and do some roof patching wherever it was
>>> > > near Fairchance with 2 other cars.  They were sitting side by side
>>> > > at a small amusement part and we drove the alternate main line and
>>> > > could see the slag ballast like the rails were still  there.
>>> My
>>> > brain
>>> > >
>>> > > also reminds me that 832 was the last car  painted by West Penn,
>>> > > but don't take that to the bank unless Ed verifies  it.
>>> > >
>>> > > Fred Bruhn
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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