[PRCo] Re: the early years of PERC

Fri May 9 22:49:55 EDT 2008

Basically you have to serve an educational or charitable function.    
Club per se doesn't work.    fws3

On May 9, 2008, at 6:38 PM, Edward H. Lybarger wrote:

> I'm on my way out of town and don't have a lot of time  
> here...basically the
> IRS says if you're a hobby club you can't have a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt
> status.  No more, no less.  Simple.  They had to change the name to  
> gain the
> exemption.
>
> Ed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of  
> Phillip
> Clark Campbell
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:21 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: the early years of PERC
>
> Is it written somewhere and if not, could you please give us a  
> nutshell idea
> of the concerns and needs for changing from club to PRMA.  I  
> thought this
> was completed by 1960 but am apparently wrong.
>
>
> Phil
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net>
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 1:58:05 PM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: the early years of PERC
>>
>> It was 1960.  I wasn't around and didn't ever know the primary  
>> complainer.
>> But Joe M. was certainly out of the picture!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of
>> Phillip Clark Campbell
>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:35 PM
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: the early years of PERC
>>
>> Sounds very interesting, Mr.Lybarger - communists in the McCarthy era
> govt!
>>
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Edward H. Lybarger
>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>> Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 1:15:35 PM
>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: the early years of PERC
>>>
>>> The "Communists" running the government were telling them they
>>> couldn't be a club.  I wasn't suggesting they were LEGITIMATE  
>>> concerns!
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Phillip Clark Campbell
>>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:03 PM
>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: the early years of PERC
>>>
>>> Mr.Lybarger!
>>>
>>>
>>> Could you please clarify; what were the concerns?
>>>
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: Edward H. Lybarger
>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 9, 2008 12:55:00 PM
>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: the early years of PERC
>>>>
>>>> That is correct.  And how a couple of the early members howled  
>>>> about
> it!
>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>>>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf
>>>> Of Phillip Clark Campbell
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 3:33 PM
>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: the early years of PERC
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mr.Bruhn!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The operative word here is  'club'  --  Pittsburgh Electric
>>>> Railway
>> Club.
>>>> Just guessing here but  'assume'  a  'club'  cannot have tax
>>>> exempt status thus the change to PRMA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Phil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>>> From: "Fredbruhn at aol.com"
>>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 4:54:13 PM
>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: the early years of PERC
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess it is time I throw my two cents worth in.  I joined up
>>>>> indirectly about 1958, and I may have even paid dues that early.
>>>>> I only  remember Redman, Bowker, Scanlon, Bartley, and Rinney
>>>>> Galbreath as
>>>> regular faces  at  the
>>>>> meetings at the Y on Wood Street.   Harry Bartley would  sit at a
>> small
>>>> desk
>>>>> just
>>>>> inside the room assigned to the meeting and have his  photos for
> sale.
>>
>>>>> 1138 was Dick Bowker's decision, his car, but I can't  tell you
>>>>> why he picked that car.  Did 1138 run on Ardmore as that is
>>>>> where Dick lived,
>>>> perhaps still does.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other youngsters who would show up  included John Baginsky and
>>>>> Rick
>>>> Hannigan.
>>>>> John was active at Arden but  didn't survive a back operation
>>>>> about 1960.  I think Galbreath bought  M1, which John Wilkins
>>>>> sometime later rear ended with the West Penn loco or  another car.
>>>>> Rinney was a story in himself.  Lived in Taylorstown, Pa  and
>>>>> played the ladies within his own age group.  I heard he finally
>>>>> found  one with money and I never saw him  again.  As Ed said
>>>>> Brown owned  3756 and lived in Phila. by 1958 or so.  I wasn't
>>>>> aware that Scanlon was
>>>>>
>>>>> part of that ownership.  In 59 or 60 Rick, John and I went with
>>>>> Scanlon to visit 722 and do some roof patching wherever it was
>>>>> near Fairchance with 2 other cars.  They were sitting side by
>>>>> side at a small amusement part and we drove the alternate main
>>>>> line and could see the slag ballast like the rails were still
> there.
>>> My
>>>> brain
>>>>>
>>>>> also reminds me that 832 was the last car  painted by West Penn,
>>>>> but don't take that to the bank unless Ed verifies  it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fred Bruhn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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