[PRCo] Re: SE DE

[John Swindler]

Suspect Russ gave us a good hint ten days ago.
> From: trams2 at comcast.net> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> Subject: [PRCo] Re: SE DE> Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 19:46:04 -0400> > And yet they said that very thing. We just don't yet know why.> > -----Original Message-----> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Fred> Schneider> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:46 PM> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> Subject: [PRCo] Re: SE DE> > Sure they're needed. Companies simply don't make decisions in a > vacuum. They don't say, "Hey, from now on we're going to buy single- end> cars." They weigh all sorts of factors ... construction costs, > revenue gains and losses, real estate costs, political gains. It is > all part of the story of Pittsburgh Railways in the teens and twenties and> until you know why, you don't understand the company.> > > > On May 14, 2008, at 4:10 PM, Phillip Clark Campbell wrote:> > > Specifics aren't needed are they -- 4400s DE were purchased as well > > - folder is stored again so don't have dates available - small number.> >> > Why? Why indeed! More efficient operation with sE?> >> >> > Phil> >> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----> >> From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>> >> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org; Phillip Clark Campbell > >> <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:04:50 PM> >> Subject: [PRCo] Re: SE DE> >>> >> All except trippers went to Wilmerding.> >>> >> The 4700s were 1917 and delivered in 1918. You forgot the 4420s.> >>> >> But you are still not addressing why?> >>> >> On May 14, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Phillip Clark Campbell wrote:> >>> >>> Hi!> >>>> >>>> >>> Another way to look at this is dates of equipment purchases isn't > >>> it.> >>>> >>> 4000s & 4100s -- SE High Floor -- 1910--1911> >>>> >>> 4200--4399 -- DE low floor 1914--1917> >>>> >>> 4700s thru 5500s -- SE low floor -- 1916--1926> >>>> >>> Seems that SE was the vehicle of choice by 1920, even earlier.> >>>> >>> DE equipment was used as needed but loops / wyes were constructed> >>> on DE routes over time. As DE equipment aged and loops / wyes> >>> built the DE equipment was phased out.> >>>> >>>> >>> Phil> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ----- Original Message ----> >>>> From: Phillip Clark Campbell> >>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 12:17:36 PM> >>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: SE DE> >>>>> >>>> To the List: In 1928 PRC made its last purchase of equipment> >>>> before the PCCs,> >>>> the 15 St.Louis SE Interurbans. Equipment purchases 'by PRC'> >>>> were 72% SE;> >>>> inherited equipment made up bulk of DE cars. It would seem that > >>>> PRC made up its mind well before 1929 since by 1925 they had > >>>> purchased predominantly SE cars.> >>>>> >>>> Did all 87-Ardmore trips go to Wilmerding or did some turn in E.Pgh > >>>> on city street loops? Yes - given that DE routes existed, 62 one > >>>> of them along with 99, 12, (1,4,5 - not sure how/when these got > >>>> loops,) 29, 38A, Washington & Donora locals, etc.> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Phil> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----> >>>>> From: Fred Schneider> >>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 5:47:48 PM> >>>>> Subject: [PRCo]> >>>>>> >>>> ----------------> >>>>> I think it just shows that by 1929 they had made the decision that > >>>>> single-end was better where it was possible to use them ... cost > >>>>> less to maintain and they seated about 13 more people in a 45' > >>>>> body.> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > 
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