[PRCo] Re: Streetcar Loops

[Jerry Matt Matsick]

This may be a "ding a ling" question, but here goes, I understand how the Monongahela to
Charleroi route came about and often wondered why when they put in the line to Donora why
did they stop at First Street and why didn't they proceed further south about 1/2 mile and
even put in a loop as there were alot of people living in Donora south of First Street?
I know that DE car (Jones Low Floor cars) where in operation but somewhere I read in the 
early years a SE car would proceed to Donora and do a turn a round at the Wye?
"Ding a Ling" of a question

Jerry Matsick
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>From the River City by the Sea! 
Jerry "Matt" Matsick 
"Jacksonville" 


-------------- Original message from "Gray, George" <George.Gray at gta.ga.gov>: -------------- 


> I will look into doing that. 
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> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org 
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Herb 
> Brannon 
> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 9:37 PM 
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org 
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Streetcar Loops 
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> Perhaps someone should forward these messages to the webmaster at that 
> site. Why let them continue putting out bad information ? 
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> Fred Schneider wrote: 
> Apparently the author of that item knows something that Pittsburgh 
> Railways didn't know. The route cards in 1905 show that the line 
> came out West Liberty Avenue and up Brookline Blvd. and ended at 
> Queensboro Avenue. Same in 1907. Same in 1908. Same in 1909. 
> Sorry about that George. 
> The extension to Fairhaven and South Bank opened September 12, 1910 
> and closed November 1, 1910 for want of business. These dates were 
> given previously by Ed Lybarger. 
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> The loop was opened April 5, 1926. Same year the last of the low- 
> floor cars were delivered. 
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> Double-end low-floor cars were placed on this line October 6, 1915. 
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> That is the gospel according to Pittsburgh Railways' own records. 
> It is frustrating when people make up facts and publish them because 
> you never again get rid of the errors. 
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> On May 19, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Gray, George wrote: 
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> > The following extract from the Brookline community website implies 
> > that 
> > Brookline loop was completed in 1915. No additional land purchase 
> > would 
> > have been necessary to build the loop. 
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> > In 1905 the Pittsburgh Railway System laid the first single track 
> > trolley line through Brookline. Service went from the Brookline 
> > Junction 
> > (West Liberty Avenue) down the length of Brookline Boulevard, 
> > extending 
> > down through the wooded valley to Fairhaven, near the old Overbrook 
> > School at Saw Mill Run. This connected to the old Charleroi rail line 
> > that ran along Saw Mill Run. (The tunnel near Overbrook School at the 
> > far eastern edge of Brookline was built for that first trolley 
> > line, and 
> > the brackets for the power lines are still there, over 100 years 
> > later!) 
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> > This inaugural track was terminated at Edgebrook Avenue less than a 
> > year 
> > later. In 1909 work began on a double-track line that ran from the 
> > junction at West Liberty Avenue past Edgebrook and Breining Street. It 
> > terminated at a trolley loop near Witt Street on the eastern end of 
> > Brookline Boulevard. Work on the new line was completed in 1915, when 
> > additional track was laid from the Brookline junction up the remaining 
> > stretch of West Liberty Avenue to the city limit at Dormont Borough. 
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> > George Gray 
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