[PRCo] Re: More photos

[Phillip Clark Campbell]

Mr.Lybarger;


Great detail for one who claims he is not into this 'minutia;'  this is
highly informative isn't it.  I am not overly interested in coaches;  first
blush indicated this is a Pat bus thus a date of 1950 had to be wrong.
As I look more closely I wonder about the paint configuration on the
dash;  did Pat do such?  I now see that this could be a private carrier
in 1950.


Phil




> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net>
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 12:50:57 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: More photos
> 
> There are five things that I'm not buying...
> 
> 1.  The font used for the number is nowhere close to PAT's.
> 
> 2.  The vent above the destination signbox was rare in Western PA.  And
> local buses did not generally have a PITTSBURGH panel on the rollsign.
> 
> 3.  The turn signal is the expensive model; not generally found here.
> 
> 4.  The stripe is too dark to be PAT red.  If this were orthochromatic film,
> I might say otherwise, but it's not.
> 
> And...
> 
> 5.  The state inspection sticker is on the right window.  Pennsylvania had
> changed the location to the driver's windshield long before PAT was on the
> scene.
> 
> What about other private operators such as P&W or Lincoln Coach?
> 
> I'm having dinner tonight with Barb and Ralph.  I'll show it to him.
> 
> Ed
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of John
> Swindler
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 2:58 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: More photos
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Could not find a private operator with a TDH 4509/12 numbered 310, but there
> was a Pgh Rys bus #310 which went into the PAT fleet.  This is according to
> the Pittsburgh bus history site referenced elsewhere.
> 
> 
> 
> Some of the private operators adopted the PAT paint scheme, but not sure if
> only 'new look' buses bought in early 1960s or also applied to some of the
> 'old look' buses.  The original scheme had a green belt rail, similar to
> Harrisburg Railways.  By the time PAT actually took over, had changed to
> red.  
> 
> 
> 
> I'd tend to suspect that this is a 1960s photo of ex PRC 310 in PAT livery.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > From: trams2 at comcast.net
> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: More photos
> > Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:21:43 -0400
> > 
> > The date on the bus accident could well be correct. This is not the 
> > 1980 accident near Palm Garden. This is a private operator's bus 
> > #310...there's a research project for someone!
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> > [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of 
> > Phillip Clark Campbell
> > Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:41 PM
> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > Subject: [PRCo] More photos
> > 
> > 
> > Quite a few very interesting photos; this could almost be a real 
> > estate diversion couldn't it:
> > 
> > http://tinyurl.com/1601sHighWater - Location?
> > 
> > http://tinyurl.com/StreetFlood-1950 - Location?
> > 
> > http://tinyurl.com/NarrowBridge - Location?
> > 
> > http://tinyurl.com/Courthouse19520404 - Low bridge ahead, bus!
> > 
> > http://tinyurl.com/ForbesFlood-1950 - not a few photos show flooding.
> > 
> > http://tinyurl.com/OaklandFifthToEast - this is an incredibly 
> > beautiful aerial isn't it -- 1601, 17xx, ten or eleven, and one of 
> > those PCCs in the distance!
> > 
> > http://tinyurl.com/5thKaufmannConstruction - How would trolley service 
> > be rerouted?
> > 
> > http://tinyurl.com/17xx-71-5thDowntown-1950
> > 
> > http://tinyurl.com/PatBusCrash - Date is wrong by at least 14-years.
> > 
> > 
> > Phil