[PRCo] Re: 88 Transit and Suburban

[Phillip Clark Campbell]

Mr.Swindler;


Thank you for more details of these bus lines.  I understand about the
complexity of the details.


Phil






> ----- Original Message ----
> From: John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 5:14:51 AM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: 88 Transit and Suburban
> 
> To bring things up to date on the Washington side, GG&C Bus lines, named after 
> three school teachers that got into the school bus service, took 
> over/bought/assumed (not sure how it happened) the former service of Washington 
> City Lines, which in a prior reincarnation were the Washington local lines.  
> 
> GG&C also had a local route Canonsburg to Washington in 1970s.  This may have 
> been how they got started in the fixed route business.  It evolved into a 
> Washington-Pittsburgh service which was previously provided by Suburban, 
> previously Blue Ridge, and even earlier the Washington interurban.  This 
> genealogy can get complicated very quickly.
> 
> GG&C Bus Lines was sold to John Lenzner several years ago.  Last week I met Dave 
> Good (son of one of the GG&C founders) and John Lenzner in Hershey.  John 
> mentioned that he gets Trolley Fare every couple months, and Dave was at PTM 
> last year with one of the GG&C buses for the dedication of 4398.
> 
> 
> 
> It's a small world.
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> > From: trams2 at comcast.net
> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: 88 Transit and Suburban
> > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:28:01 -0400
> > 
> > Blue Ridge Lines competed with PRCo on both interurbans. PRCo competed with
> > itself on Charleroi with a bus route that didn't make it into the
> > Depression. Greyhound acquired Blue Ridge in 1955, then sold the
> > Washington-Wheeling service about 1959 to Suburban Lines, based in
> > Washington. The Charleroi service was sold to 88 Transit Lines at about the
> > same time. Both companies were owned by the drivers, which worked well for
> > a while and then became a problem as rider numbers dropped and drivers
> > retired but still wanted dividends. Finally Suburban was sold to Shortway
> > out of Detroit, who bankrupt it pretty quickly. 88 Transit is still around,
> > and contracts to Mid-Mon Valley Transit Authority.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> > [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Phillip
> > Clark Campbell
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:20 PM
> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > Subject: [PRCo] 88 Transit and Suburban
> > 
> > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > 
> > > From: Edward H. Lybarger 
> > > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:01:27 AM
> > > Subject: [PRCo] Re: More photos
> > > 
> > > 88 Transit and Suburban were not in business in the early '50s. They 
> > > were a late '50s result of Greyhound's decision to get out of the 
> > > local service business that they had acquired in 1955 through the 
> > > purchase of Blue Ridge from Potomac Edison.
> > > 
> > This is more than I ever wanted to know about coaches but here you have
> > piqued my interest, to a limited degree. Who competed with Charleroi and
> > Washington service if any? Did 88 eventually operate these routes? I'm
> > sorry; while I recognize the name 'Suburban' I do not remember anything
> > about them. Was Suburban the competitor for Charleroi and Washington?
> > 
> > 
> > Phil
> 
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