[PRCo] Re: 3807

[John Swindler]

True.  Perhaps an accident report will turn up in the newpaper - say around 1942?  That should give sufficient time for dust to accumulate.  

 

I was looking at some Mkt-Fkd maintenance records yesterday, and accident reports were in the files.  Cars are pulled out of service until the insurance and safety people had done their 'due diligence'.  It can be several months.  But I don't - and somewhat doubt - if the same would apply 70 years ago  on PRC????  But it may have been pulled from service to get fixed, and never got fixed.

 


 
> From: trams2 at comcast.net
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: 3807
> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:03:49 -0400
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> Those signs in the window and the dust layers tell us that car has been in
> the building for a long time. Too bad nobody looked on the other
> side...they just blindly accepted the railfans' version, which of course
> can't be.
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> Subject: [PRCo] Re: 3807
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> Unfortunately there may not be a picture of front or other side to see if
> there was accident damage. This is post WWII. Were 12s and 16s being used
> on Overbrook lines at this date? Maybe 3807 was just the first to be phased
> out of service?????
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> > From: trams2 at comcast.net
> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > Subject: [PRCo] 3807
> > Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:18:13 -0400
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> > There was recently some discussion about PRCo 3807. For years stories 
> > have circulated about how this car never ran in service, but the facts 
> > do not appear to bear this out.
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> > Let's begin with the Charles Dengler note that accompanies the 
> > attached photo of the car inside the Homewood Shops in November 1945:
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> > "We have been told that 3807 made a round trip on the Charleroi line, 
> > and she came back 8 inches out of line (her body). Knowing PRCo track, 
> > this is quite possible. St Louis Car Co. built 3800-3814 in 1928. St 
> > Louis Car Co said they would not stock parts for the 3800s. PRCo then 
> > did not pay for 3807, but kept her for parts, and the 3100, 3300 type 
> > trucks she sets [sic] on, were used so that the original trucks could 
> > be spares for the other 3800s, they had a long wheel base and 28" wheels."
> > 
> > This is a story that a railfan could love. It has that mystique that 
> > sets this car apart as really different. So what's wrong with it?
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> > First...St. Louis Car warranted its products against structural 
> > defects, ot it wouldn't have sold any. Had there been such a problem 
> > in the beginning, it would have been adjusted.
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> > Secondly...and most compelling to me...is the fact that 3807 received 
> > a complete #1 paint job on January 19, 1934, right on schedule for the
> series.
> > If it was damaged in 1928 and was never run (or paid for) in service, 
> > why would it need new paint? The fact that the "Watch Car Turn" 
> > lettering has been added to the rear of the car (it was not there 
> > originally, as illustrated in Union Switch & Signal's photo C-26772 of 
> > car 3802 when the Washington signals were new) clearly implies that it 
> > was in service, as do the Depression-era institutional advertising signs
> showing in the windows.
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> > So clearly the car was in service for at least five years and four months.
> > What happened after that is the $64 question.
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> > Ed
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> > http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/3807%20Homewood%20
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