[PRCo] Re: THEIR 6TH SUPERBOWL WIN!

John Swindler j_swindler at hotmail.com
Thu Feb 12 13:25:41 EST 2009


 
 
 
There are a lot of alleged southerners that, if you scrape them enough, are decended from 'yankees'.  And not just today. Such as Jerry in Jacksonville.
 
Philadelphia and New York were principal immigration ports, a natural migration route was down the Shenandoah Valley.  The Ohio River was another migration route.  The first generation might have settled in  New England, New Jersey or Pennsylvania, and second, third or fourth generation looked for more 'elbow room'.  There were a lot of cousins on both sides during the civil war.  A former 1st Sgt. told the story of a proper Southern women who didn't want to talk about the old family tombstones with births listed in Pennsylvania.  Make that the really old ones from early 19th century.  The not so old tombstones from mid 19th century were ok.
 
Cheers
John
 
 
 
 
> From: fwschneider at comcast.net> Subject: [PRCo] Re: THEIR 6TH SUPERBOWL WIN!> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:02:49 -0500> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > Yes. Those to the south viewed it differently. Today I sometimes > think that some of the southerners have learned better than those up > north how to "get with the program."> > > On Feb 12, 2009, at 12:18 PM, John Swindler wrote:> > >> >> > Not necessarily, Fred. Charles Darwin was also born on Feb. 12, > > 1809, but I too would make the assumption that Dennis was referring > > to Lincoln.> >> > In the grand scheme of things, would rank Lincoln far superior to > > any of today's politicians. This country is extremely fortunate > > that Lincoln was on the scene at that time of our country's need. > > Suspect those south of Mason-Dixon line might take a dimmer view. > > By comparison, look who came before and after him.> >> > Cheers> > John> >> >> From: fwschneider at comcast.net> Subject: [PRCo] Re: THEIR 6TH > >> SUPERBOWL WIN!> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:59:58 -0500> To: > >> pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > Oh, Lincoln's Birthday. Did > >> you see the program on PBS television > last night, Dennis, > >> talking about the real Abraham Lincoln? They > bared him for all > >> to see. Even the fact that he considered sending > all the > >> "Niggers" back to Africa because it might be the way that > would > >> get him into office....... The man struggled through a lot of > > >> conflicting issues including human rights and property rights and > >> > states rights. Don't know if WQED had it. I saw it on WITF > > >> (Harrisburg).> > It reminded me of the stark differences between > >> high school history > classes that tell things the politically > >> correct way, and my first > college history course. The latter was > >> a University of Maryland > extension course that I took in the > >> army in Germany and that > professor certainly did not gild the > >> lily.> > > On Feb 12, 2009, at 9:08 AM!> > , Dennis Fred Cramer wrote:> > > The city and county are not the > > same and the economic variances > > across both> > the county and > > region are staggering. It is one thing to found > > memories of> > > > what once was and another to live in the reality and see it day to > > > > day.> > Realize that the Steeler Nation exists because so many > > people had > > to leave> > this area to find meaningful employment > > and people feel a need to > > belong to> > a social group that has > > little rules. Religion does not work as > > well today> > because > > there are expectations. Belonging to a group in Facebook, > > > > MySpace,> > this group, or something as vague as Steeler Nation is > > comforting > > to many.> > We can do it from the comfort of our > > homes without necessarily > > having to> > make any commitments.> > > >> > The Steelers won, not me or any of the other patrons. We are > > the > > ones who> > had new sports stadiums shoved down our throats > > when we voted them > > down.> > The politicians like to talk ab!> > out the incredible revenue teams > > bring to an> > area. There > > were 1> > 0 regular season football games in Heinz Field > > played by> > the > > Steelers, one day of WPIAL high school playoffs and about 6 > > > > PITT games.> > Far too little usage for my tax money. They should > > have let the > > Pirates go.> > They thought if they built a new > > park that everything would be> > wonderful--build it and they will > > come. They never considered > > traffic to or> > from the games. > > Watch other cities and see how there stadiums have > > parking,> > > > road, and many times rail access. Pittsburgh is a nightmare when > > > > there is a> > sporting event and the Rooney's want public money > > to build an > > entertainment> > complex.> >> > I do not spend > > money on sports and think there is far to much > > emphasis on it> > > > in the media. Too many people want to live their lives through > > > > someone else> > than themselves. We stopped at the Grove City > > outlets on the way > > home from> > Niagara last weekend and in > > this struggling economy, the Steeler > > store was> > jammed with peo!> > ple spending incredible amounts of money thinking > > they own> > > > the team. It is a business and all professional sports owners & > > > > players> > realize that. They have to meet a budget and try to get > > what they > > can. They> > sit on the couch and call themselves > > sports enthusiasts.> >> > We have seen rude behavior by all sorts > > of people in all sorts of > > settings.> > Many times alcohol has a > > lot to do with it. I remember playing at > > Three> > Rivers in the > > early '70's and seeing people being carried out > > because they> > > > were so drunk. Many stadiums have built family zones and a few > > > > even have a> > district magistrate office in the stadium. It is > > just as bad in > > high school> > sports. I spent 40 years as a > > student and teacher in music programs> > directly involved in > > sports programs and many times the parents > > bring the> > wrong > > attitudes. Many fine coaches leave the profession, because of > > > > "expert> > parents" who gained their expertise by watching sport!> > s on TV, want > > to run> > the show instead of letting the > > profession> > al teach. Don't even ask > > about> > performance enhancing drugs > > given by parents to their kids to help > > them> > improve.> >> > > > If their was as much time effort and concern actually spent on > > > > learning our> > educational system might not be the basket case > > that it is today. > > Parents> > cannot afford to provide them with > > the basics needed to succeed, > > but they> > all have $80.00 team > > jerseys on their backs and a cell phone in their> > pocket.> >> > > > Enough of the tirade, I am going to spend the day celebrating on of > > my> > favorite persons 200th birthday.> >> >> >> >> > Dennis F. > > Cramer> > Trombone> >> >> >> >> >> > _________________________________________________________________> > Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect.> > http://windowslive.com/howitworks? > > ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_howitworks_022009> >> > > 
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