[PRCo] Re: "Martin Villa" & "Twin Oaks"?

[ROBERT R ROCKWELL]

Bridge 2 South would be the one that had the shelter for citizens of Lock View, an unincorporated community in Fallowfield Twp. The streetcar line, Monessen steel mill(s), Lockview all came into existence around the same time. Lockview population was mostly blacks from the south, and Eastern European immigrants.  All considered inferior to the good citizens of North Charleroi and Charleroi (many more Western Euro). Commonly referred to as N... Hill. The attraction was the Monessen mill jobs.
Bridge 3 north end would be access for miners to Black Diamond Mine south portal.

Bridge 1 @ 19 ft (I assume South) was probably access to a path to the end of Sheppard Avenue, although I don't remember it.

Robert Rockwell
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  I'm looking at a PRCo document that lists the stops on the Charleroi route,
  and was used to summarize a passenger count on an unnamed date.  My guess is
  mid-to-late 40s.  Here's what it says:

  Bridge No. 3, North End
  Bridge No. 3, South End  But this is crossed out and replaced with:
  "No. 2 North End (Isbell)?"
  Bridge No. 2 South
  Bridge No. 1

  I've never seen "Twin Oaks" on a company document, but have of course seen
  the same references you speak of here.

  According to the engineering measurement book (again undated but probably
  1920s), the stop for Bridge No. 3 was 37 feet south of the south abutment,
  for Bridge No. 2 it was 73 feet away, and for Bridge No. 1 only 19 feet.

  Don't know if this info helps or confuses!

  Ed

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  Subject: [PRCo] Re: "Martin Villa" & "Twin Oaks"?

  A guy asked me about it , and I thought of Martin at Allenport and of course
  it didn't look right. So, I figured someone here would know. "Martin Villa"
  didn't sound very Pittsburghish to me.
  The commonly seen pix of a car on bridge #3 near "Twin Oaks" is interesting
  to me. I have a theory that it was the unlisted stop between bridges 1 & 2.
  It even had a shelter.



  Robert Rockwell
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    The car is OB at Martin Villa.