[PRCo] Re: Steeler Stuff In Cleveland

[Ken and Tracie]

Remember the t-shirts from the 1970s?

"Visit Cleveland....the Armpit of the Nation"

K.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Schneider Fred" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:29 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Steeler Stuff In Cleveland


> You're as nasty as I am.   Love it.
> 
> Hey, they didn't paint the street cars tan (or was it orange) and  
> cream in Cleveland for lack of reason.   It was called camouflage.   
> They could hide them under all the mill dust.
> 
> Your turn, Ken.
> 
> On Jan 26, 2009, at 8:43 PM, Ken and Tracie wrote:
> 
>> Dang, that means no more burning river? That would be a great tourist
>> attraction. "Come see our river catch on fire."
>>
>> K.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran at cavtel.net>
>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:39 PM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Steeler Stuff In Cleveland
>>
>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Ken and Tracie
>>> <ktjosephson at embarqmail.com>wrote:
>>>> I've read reports that the poisonous muck is concealed under  
>>>> twenty five
>>>> to
>>>> thirty years of cleaner sediment. Any dredging exposes and stirs  
>>>> up the
>>>> layers of poisonous sediments and it would kill surrounding  
>>>> marine life.
>>>>
>>>> K.
>>>>
>>>> Not true. Lake Erie is clean and clear again. Dredging goes on  
>>>> constantly
>>> inside the sea wall to keep the harbor deep enough for all the  
>>> ocean going
>>> ships going in and out. Also the Cuyahoga River is open to ocean  
>>> going
>>> ships
>>> as far South as Clark Avenue and open to lake freighter ships as  
>>> far South
>>> as Harvard Avenue. This requires constant dredging. Enough "bottom
>>> material"
>>> was probably removed in the 1960s, 70s, and 80s to remove the bad  
>>> stuff.
>>> The
>>> main industry along the river is steel (9 works) and aluminum (three
>>> works).
>>> Arcelor-Mittal runs all 7 of its works at 100% capacity and does not
>>> pollute
>>> as does Charter Steel with its 2 works running three shifts per  
>>> day. Alcoa
>>> Aluminum has three works (all running at 100% capacity) along the  
>>> upper
>>> area
>>> of the Cuyahoga and does not pollute. These factories are  
>>> monitored by the
>>> local and Federal governments. So for now at least everything is  
>>> going
>>> good.
>>> -- 
>>> Herb Brannon
>>> On America's North Coast
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
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