[PRCo] Re: Steeler Stuff In Cleveland

[Schneider Fred]

No, but I remember "The Mistake on the Lake."   I also remember when  
the current senator was a mayor and was reminded of something nasty  
he did ... mooning people out of the back of school bus.

Sorry Herb.

Old legends die hard.

I will also never refer to a certain line to Norristown as SEPTA  
route 100.   To me it's still the P&W.

On Jan 26, 2009, at 9:37 PM, Ken and Tracie wrote:

> Remember the t-shirts from the 1970s?
>
> "Visit Cleveland....the Armpit of the Nation"
>
> K.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Schneider Fred" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:29 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Steeler Stuff In Cleveland
>
>
>> You're as nasty as I am.   Love it.
>>
>> Hey, they didn't paint the street cars tan (or was it orange) and
>> cream in Cleveland for lack of reason.   It was called camouflage.
>> They could hide them under all the mill dust.
>>
>> Your turn, Ken.
>>
>> On Jan 26, 2009, at 8:43 PM, Ken and Tracie wrote:
>>
>>> Dang, that means no more burning river? That would be a great  
>>> tourist
>>> attraction. "Come see our river catch on fire."
>>>
>>> K.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran at cavtel.net>
>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 5:39 PM
>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Steeler Stuff In Cleveland
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Ken and Tracie
>>>> <ktjosephson at embarqmail.com>wrote:
>>>>> I've read reports that the poisonous muck is concealed under
>>>>> twenty five
>>>>> to
>>>>> thirty years of cleaner sediment. Any dredging exposes and stirs
>>>>> up the
>>>>> layers of poisonous sediments and it would kill surrounding
>>>>> marine life.
>>>>>
>>>>> K.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not true. Lake Erie is clean and clear again. Dredging goes on
>>>>> constantly
>>>> inside the sea wall to keep the harbor deep enough for all the
>>>> ocean going
>>>> ships going in and out. Also the Cuyahoga River is open to ocean
>>>> going
>>>> ships
>>>> as far South as Clark Avenue and open to lake freighter ships as
>>>> far South
>>>> as Harvard Avenue. This requires constant dredging. Enough "bottom
>>>> material"
>>>> was probably removed in the 1960s, 70s, and 80s to remove the bad
>>>> stuff.
>>>> The
>>>> main industry along the river is steel (9 works) and aluminum  
>>>> (three
>>>> works).
>>>> Arcelor-Mittal runs all 7 of its works at 100% capacity and does  
>>>> not
>>>> pollute
>>>> as does Charter Steel with its 2 works running three shifts per
>>>> day. Alcoa
>>>> Aluminum has three works (all running at 100% capacity) along the
>>>> upper
>>>> area
>>>> of the Cuyahoga and does not pollute. These factories are
>>>> monitored by the
>>>> local and Federal governments. So for now at least everything is
>>>> going
>>>> good.
>>>> -- 
>>>> Herb Brannon
>>>> On America's North Coast
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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