[PRCo] Re: Funeral cars

[Schneider Fred]

Yes, Harold Cox is the expert on PRT.   At one time he had access to  
all of the PRT records but he has placed a lot of them in museum 
(s).   I do not, however, know what survived from earlier periods.   
The Hillside was a post 1911 car.   I cannot readily find an absolute  
date on line for the cessation of operations of Union Traction  
Company and the beginnings of services by PRT ... sometime between  
1899 and 1902.   It is, however, safe to say the PRT was formed out  
of a hodge podge of independent companies just like Pittsburgh  
Railways was and it is possible and maybe even probable that one or  
more of them had some way of getting mourners to graveside ceremonies  
prior to 1902.






On Mar 3, 2009, at 4:48 PM, Phillip Clark Campbell wrote:

> Mr.Schneider;
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> While it is true that anything is possible there are at least 3  
> pieces of evidence
> working against this isn't there:
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> 1--Mr.Cox very knowledgeable about Philadelphia isn't he.
> 2--Mr.Lybarger also knowledgeable;  his association with PTM
> ........as archivist underscores this interest and knowledge.
> ........That is the 'PA'-Museum isn't it which includes Philadelphia.
> 3--Modelers are known to take license with their models aren't they.
> ........Thus the model may or may 'not' be authentic to the prototype.
> ........What is used to support can also be used to deny.
> ........It seems clear now that Philly had such a car but the name  
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> ........is in question.
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> Until concrete evidence is produced otherwise I shall accept that the
> Philadelphia Funeral Car was named  'Hillside.'
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> Phil
> PS - Not really interested in Philadelphia nor any other city;   
> Mr.Lybarger
> answered my question concerning PRC didn't he.  Thank you.
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>> From: Schneider Fred <fwschneider at comcast.net>
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>> Remember that Philadelphia was a much larger city than it is now both
>> in rank and sheer population.   Perhaps there were multiple cars?
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>>> On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:28 AM, Edward H. Lybarger wrote:
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>>> Fernwood?  That one's new to me.
>>> Our photos show a car named Hillside.
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>>>> From: BobDietrich
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>>>> I'm surprised that no one mentioned the Philly Funeral car -
>>>> or did I miss it.
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>>>> It was called Fernwood.  I only know this because in 1973 Ed
>>>> Torpey won an East Penn contest with his model of the car.
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>>>>> Edward H. Lybarger wrote:
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>>>>> PRC did not.
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>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Phillip Clark Campbell
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:05 PM
>>>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Funeral cars
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>>>>>> Did PRC have any funeral cars?  Assume not; seems to be
>>>>>> 'more'  of a Western-US phenomenon doesn't it.
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>>>>>> Phil
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