[PRCo] Re: Funeral cars

[Schneider Fred]

Just thinking out loud two zones to Glenside ... 10 cents up, 10  
cents back   ... 20 cents per rider ... probably a guaranteed minimum  
of 40 fares $8.00  plus a fee to haul the casket ... maybe $10 a trip.

I chartered a Pittsburgh car in 1958 for eight hours for $94.80.    
Now if we consider that costs in the industry declined from 1900 to  
1950 because cars were lengthened and crews were made smaller, then  
may $15 would be reasonable back in 1912.


On Mar 3, 2009, at 11:13 PM, Richard Allman wrote:

> Fred et. al.-sounds like Bill has the answer-thanks! Wonder what  
> the fee
> was? If there were 100 funerals annually(more than one per day a  
> logistical
> nightmare, given distances and slowness of PRT) $25 per? just  
> guessing.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Robb" <bill937ca at yahoo.ca>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:56 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Funeral cars
>
>
>> Cox says the car was built at the suggestion of the Hillside  
>> Cemetery who
>> guaranteed a minimum $2500 annual return to PRT for seven years.  
>> The car
>> was built on Brill order 18358, booked on 23 May 1912 and cost  
>> $4300. The
>> car was made to resemble as closely as possible a Near Side car.  
>> Hillside
>> Cemetery had priority on the use of the car and provided about 75%  
>> of the
>> revenues, but other cemeteries were allowed to use the car when it  
>> was not
>> otherwise scheduled. It was dismantled in 1932.
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> not sure! Question for Dick Vible who is wise in all such matters- 
>> will ask
>> him @ East Penn this Friday.
>> The car had a door for the casket and was furnished differently  
>> than the
>> usual Nearside decor. I seem to recall old PRT track maps showing the
>> Hillside Cemetery siding.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Schneider Fred" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:47 PM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Funeral cars
>>
>>
>>> So Rich, did PRT have 1500 Nearsides with 1 converted to the
>>> Hillside .... or 1501 with the Hillside built as a separate order?
>>>
>>> On Mar 3, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Richard Allman wrote:
>>>
>>>> actually, Ed Torpey's was called Fernwood-the PRT car was the
>>>> Hillside. I
>>>> did some research a few years ago and it turns out that my
>>>> great-grandmother, Jane Bunting had her last ride on the Hillside
>>>> in 1919,
>>>> from a funeral home in Kensington section of the city, over
>>>> whatever routes
>>>> to Old York Road, and then out Route 6 to Hillside Cemetery in
>>>> Glenside. PRT
>>>> had a siding at the cemetery. My mother had told me of the trip the
>>>> family
>>>> made on that January, 1919 day. The car was a Nearside.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "BobDietrich" <bob.dietrich1 at verizon.net>
>>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 8:15 AM
>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Funeral cars
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'm surprised that no one mentioned the Philly Funeral car - or
>>>>> did I miss
>>>>> it.  It was called Fernwood.  I only know this because in 1973 Ed
>>>>> Torpey
>>>>> won
>>>>> an East Penn contest with his model of the car.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>>>>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf
>>>>> Of Ken
>>>>> and
>>>>> Tracie
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 6:40 PM
>>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Funeral cars
>>>>>
>>>>> I looked up the following information:
>>>>>
>>>>> Chicago's funeral car was simply "Number One." Also read that St.
>>>>> Louis
>>>>> and
>>>>> Buffalo had funeral cars.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have seen photos of  Duluth, Minnesota's trolley "fire engine."
>>>>>
>>>>> K.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams2 at comcast.net>
>>>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 2:51 PM
>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Funeral cars
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> PRC did not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>>>>>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On  
>>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>>> Phillip
>>>>>> Clark Campbell
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:05 PM
>>>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Funeral cars
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did PRC have any funeral cars?  Assume not; seems to be  'more'
>>>>>> of a
>>>>>> Western-US phenomenon doesn't it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phil
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