[PRCo] Re: Funeral cars

[John Swindler]

Costs in the industry did not decline between 1900 and 1950.  

 


 
> From: fwschneider at comcast.net
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Funeral cars
> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 07:57:55 -0500
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> 
> Just thinking out loud two zones to Glenside ... 10 cents up, 10 
> cents back ... 20 cents per rider ... probably a guaranteed minimum 
> of 40 fares $8.00 plus a fee to haul the casket ... maybe $10 a trip.
> 
> I chartered a Pittsburgh car in 1958 for eight hours for $94.80. 
> Now if we consider that costs in the industry declined from 1900 to 
> 1950 because cars were lengthened and crews were made smaller, then 
> may $15 would be reasonable back in 1912.
> 
> 
> On Mar 3, 2009, at 11:13 PM, Richard Allman wrote:
> 
> > Fred et. al.-sounds like Bill has the answer-thanks! Wonder what 
> > the fee
> > was? If there were 100 funerals annually(more than one per day a 
> > logistical
> > nightmare, given distances and slowness of PRT) $25 per? just 
> > guessing.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bill Robb" <bill937ca at yahoo.ca>
> > To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:56 PM
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Funeral cars
> >
> >
> >> Cox says the car was built at the suggestion of the Hillside 
> >> Cemetery who
> >> guaranteed a minimum $2500 annual return to PRT for seven years. 
> >> The car
> >> was built on Brill order 18358, booked on 23 May 1912 and cost 
> >> $4300. The
> >> car was made to resemble as closely as possible a Near Side car. 
> >> Hillside
> >> Cemetery had priority on the use of the car and provided about 75% 
> >> of the
> >> revenues, but other cemeteries were allowed to use the car when it 
> >> was not
> >> otherwise scheduled. It was dismantled in 1932.
> >> Bill
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> not sure! Question for Dick Vible who is wise in all such matters- 
> >> will ask
> >> him @ East Penn this Friday.
> >> The car had a door for the casket and was furnished differently 
> >> than the
> >> usual Nearside decor. I seem to recall old PRT track maps showing the
> >> Hillside Cemetery siding.
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Schneider Fred" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> >> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:47 PM
> >> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Funeral cars
> >>
> >>
> >>> So Rich, did PRT have 1500 Nearsides with 1 converted to the
> >>> Hillside .... or 1501 with the Hillside built as a separate order?
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 3, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Richard Allman wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> actually, Ed Torpey's was called Fernwood-the PRT car was the
> >>>> Hillside. I
> >>>> did some research a few years ago and it turns out that my
> >>>> great-grandmother, Jane Bunting had her last ride on the Hillside
> >>>> in 1919,
> >>>> from a funeral home in Kensington section of the city, over
> >>>> whatever routes
> >>>> to Old York Road, and then out Route 6 to Hillside Cemetery in
> >>>> Glenside. PRT
> >>>> had a siding at the cemetery. My mother had told me of the trip the
> >>>> family
> >>>> made on that January, 1919 day. The car was a Nearside.
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "BobDietrich" <bob.dietrich1 at verizon.net>
> >>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 8:15 AM
> >>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Funeral cars
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'm surprised that no one mentioned the Philly Funeral car - or
> >>>>> did I miss
> >>>>> it. It was called Fernwood. I only know this because in 1973 Ed
> >>>>> Torpey
> >>>>> won
> >>>>> an East Penn contest with his model of the car.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> >>>>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf
> >>>>> Of Ken
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> Tracie
> >>>>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 6:40 PM
> >>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Funeral cars
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I looked up the following information:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Chicago's funeral car was simply "Number One." Also read that St.
> >>>>> Louis
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> Buffalo had funeral cars.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have seen photos of Duluth, Minnesota's trolley "fire engine."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> K.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams2 at comcast.net>
> >>>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >>>>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 2:51 PM
> >>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Funeral cars
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> PRC did not.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> >>>>>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On 
> >>>>>> Behalf Of
> >>>>>> Phillip
> >>>>>> Clark Campbell
> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:05 PM
> >>>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Funeral cars
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Did PRC have any funeral cars? Assume not; seems to be 'more'
> >>>>>> of a
> >>>>>> Western-US phenomenon doesn't it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Phil
> >>>>>>
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