[PRCo] Re: Funeral cars

Richard Allman allmanr at verizon.net
Wed Mar 4 18:15:47 EST 2009


Fred-Old York Road was US 611, so who knows? I have seen early(not sure of 
dates, but early!) w/ dirt. And the roads along PRT Route 6-you're almost 
certainly correct. Amybe Abington Twp. Historical Society has such info. 
RICH
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Schneider Fred" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:49 AM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Funeral cars


> Very interesting commentary on a ay of life before the automobile.
> I guess the next thing we would want to know is when the roads were
> paved from Philadelphia up to Glenside in Montgomery County ... my
> instincts suggest not before about 1918.
>
> That guaranteed annual return to PRT would equate to about a quarter
> of a million dollars today.   That's a lot of funerals.
>
> On Mar 3, 2009, at 10:56 PM, Bill Robb wrote:
>
>> Cox says the car was built at the suggestion of the Hillside
>> Cemetery who guaranteed a minimum $2500 annual return to PRT for
>> seven years. The car was built on Brill order 18358, booked on 23
>> May 1912 and cost $4300. The car was made to resemble as closely as
>> possible a Near Side car. Hillside Cemetery had priority on the use
>> of the car and provided about 75% of the revenues, but other
>> cemeteries were allowed to use the car when it was not otherwise
>> scheduled. It was dismantled in 1932.
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> not sure! Question for Dick Vible who is wise in all such matters-
>> will ask
>> him @ East Penn this Friday.
>> The car had a door for the casket and was furnished differently
>> than the
>> usual Nearside decor. I seem to recall old PRT track maps showing the
>> Hillside Cemetery siding.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Schneider Fred" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:47 PM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Funeral cars
>>
>>
>>> So Rich, did PRT have 1500 Nearsides with 1 converted to the
>>> Hillside .... or 1501 with the Hillside built as a separate order?
>>>
>>> On Mar 3, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Richard Allman wrote:
>>>
>>>> actually, Ed Torpey's was called Fernwood-the PRT car was the
>>>> Hillside. I
>>>> did some research a few years ago and it turns out that my
>>>> great-grandmother, Jane Bunting had her last ride on the Hillside
>>>> in 1919,
>>>> from a funeral home in Kensington section of the city, over
>>>> whatever routes
>>>> to Old York Road, and then out Route 6 to Hillside Cemetery in
>>>> Glenside. PRT
>>>> had a siding at the cemetery. My mother had told me of the trip the
>>>> family
>>>> made on that January, 1919 day. The car was a Nearside.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "BobDietrich" <bob.dietrich1 at verizon.net>
>>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 8:15 AM
>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Funeral cars
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'm surprised that no one mentioned the Philly Funeral car - or
>>>>> did I miss
>>>>> it.  It was called Fernwood.  I only know this because in 1973 Ed
>>>>> Torpey
>>>>> won
>>>>> an East Penn contest with his model of the car.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>>>>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf
>>>>> Of Ken
>>>>> and
>>>>> Tracie
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 6:40 PM
>>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Funeral cars
>>>>>
>>>>> I looked up the following information:
>>>>>
>>>>> Chicago's funeral car was simply "Number One." Also read that St.
>>>>> Louis
>>>>> and
>>>>> Buffalo had funeral cars.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have seen photos of  Duluth, Minnesota's trolley "fire engine."
>>>>>
>>>>> K.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams2 at comcast.net>
>>>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 2:51 PM
>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Funeral cars
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> PRC did not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>>>>>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>>> Phillip
>>>>>> Clark Campbell
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 3:05 PM
>>>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Funeral cars
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did PRC have any funeral cars?  Assume not; seems to be  'more'
>>>>>> of a
>>>>>> Western-US phenomenon doesn't it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phil
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