[PRCo] Re: Photo from Yesterday

[Herb Brannon]

OK

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net> wrote:
> Potentially.  Nothing is set yet.  I go see the doctor at 3 tomorrow
> afternoon.  If I'm feeling better I could be there, but likely not past
> about 2 p.m.  You might try me by phone Saturday morning around 10 or so.
> 412-217-7028.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Herb
> Brannon
> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 6:11 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Photo from Yesterday
>
> Coming from you I did wonder about that  ;-o
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> BTW, will you be at PTM this Saturday??
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> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>> That's "wait" instead of what's in the last line!
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of
>> Edward H. Lybarger
>> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:31 PM
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Photo from Yesterday
>>
>> What we found when we researched the low floor design in service was
>> that the public enthusiastically preferred the wider center entrance
>> at the lower level.  The company preferred the faster boarding times
>> and fewer boarding/alighting accident claims.
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>> I don't think we can single out either width or height as THE factor;
>> they worked together to make a very serviceable design.
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>> It will be some time before 4145 enters service, in light of the work
>> needed.  But it will be worth the weight, for it is a beautiful car.
>>
>> Ed
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of
>> Phillip Clark Campbell
>> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 2:55 PM
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Photo from Yesterday
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>>> ----- Original Message ----
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>>> From: Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net>
>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 5:37:33 AM
>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Photo from Yesterday
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>>> I believe these are the original design doors.  They are not very
>>> wide, and it is easy to understand why we found news articles about
>>> the passengers flocking to the trailers first.
>>>
>>> The cars last hauled trailers in 1937, but some were also in
>>> single-unit service into the late '30s.  Considering that they could
>>> not be run as one-man cars, their use would have been limited to very
>> heavy traffic times.
>>> Thirteen were converted to snow scrapers in 1940, so they wouldn't
>>> have been totally rare during the '40s.  It snowed here in those days!
>>>
>>>
>> Mr.Lybarger;
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>> The low-floor trailers were probably popular because of their name as
>> opposed to high-floor 4145.  It is an impressive car isn't it.
>>
>> I graduated from high school 1950-51;  while I was out and about on my
>> own well before that, a trip into Pgh was always a very special treat
>> but not often traveled.
>> I don't remember seeing the high-floor M-cars on the interurbans;  we
>> had the f-cars for snow duty and actually 'catching' one of them at
>> work was elusive.
>> I know many were stored at South hills in Palm garden but I didn't
>> ride the
>> 38 that often.
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>> I had forgotten these high-floors were 2-man operated;  this certainly
>> doomed them.  Look forward to more photos as 4145 performs at the museum.
>>
>> Thank you very much for this information.
>>
>>
>> Phil
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>>>
>>> > ----- Original Message ----
>>>
>>> > From: Edward H. Lybarger
>>> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>> > Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 2:43:12 PM
>>> > Subject: [PRCo] Photo from Yesterday
>>> >
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>>> > I thought list members might enjoy one of my photos from yesterday,
>>> > with PRCo 4145 up on the jacks and the trailer being pulled out so
>>> > the shop trucks could be placed.
>>> >
>>> > Ed
>>> >
>>> http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/02-DSC_0101.JPG
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Phillip Clark Campbell
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 2:49 PM
>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Photo from Yesterday Mr.Lybarger;
>>>
>>>
>>> This 'is' a high-floor car isn't it;  watch the last step please!
>>> Painted as M cars they seem to lose much of their character;  painted
>>> for PRC and the camera angle gives 4145 a beautiful if formidable
>>> appearance.  Living on the interurbans I didn't see these cars much
>>> and just have vague recollections of them in the 1940s but none were
>> revenue cars at this time.
>>>
>>> Are the doors a modification of the original by PRC?  They look such
>>> don't they.
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>>>
>>> Phil
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