[PRCo] Re: Photo from Yesterday
John Swindler
j_swindler at hotmail.com
Fri May 15 09:29:13 EDT 2009
Or an unintentional pun?
> From: trams2 at comcast.net
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Photo from Yesterday
> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:55:54 -0400
>
> That's "wait" instead of what's in the last line!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Edward
> H. Lybarger
> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:31 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Photo from Yesterday
>
> What we found when we researched the low floor design in service was that
> the public enthusiastically preferred the wider center entrance at the lower
> level. The company preferred the faster boarding times and fewer
> boarding/alighting accident claims.
>
> I don't think we can single out either width or height as THE factor; they
> worked together to make a very serviceable design.
>
> It will be some time before 4145 enters service, in light of the work
> needed. But it will be worth the weight, for it is a beautiful car.
>
> Ed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Phillip
> Clark Campbell
> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 2:55 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Photo from Yesterday
>
>
> > ----- Original Message ----
>
> > From: Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net>
> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 5:37:33 AM
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Photo from Yesterday
> >
> > I believe these are the original design doors. They are not very
> > wide, and it is easy to understand why we found news articles about
> > the passengers flocking to the trailers first.
> >
> > The cars last hauled trailers in 1937, but some were also in
> > single-unit service into the late '30s. Considering that they could
> > not be run as one-man cars, their use would have been limited to very
> heavy traffic times.
> > Thirteen were converted to snow scrapers in 1940, so they wouldn't
> > have been totally rare during the '40s. It snowed here in those days!
> >
> >
> Mr.Lybarger;
>
>
> The low-floor trailers were probably popular because of their name as
> opposed to high-floor 4145. It is an impressive car isn't it.
>
> I graduated from high school 1950-51; while I was out and about on my own
> well before that, a trip into Pgh was always a very special treat but not
> often traveled.
> I don't remember seeing the high-floor M-cars on the interurbans; we had
> the f-cars for snow duty and actually 'catching' one of them at work was
> elusive.
> I know many were stored at South hills in Palm garden but I didn't ride the
> 38 that often.
>
> I had forgotten these high-floors were 2-man operated; this certainly
> doomed them. Look forward to more photos as 4145 performs at the museum.
>
> Thank you very much for this information.
>
>
> Phil
>
>
> >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> >
> > > From: Edward H. Lybarger
> > > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > > Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 2:43:12 PM
> > > Subject: [PRCo] Photo from Yesterday
> > >
> > > Content-Type: text/plain;
> > > charset="us-ascii"
> > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > > I thought list members might enjoy one of my photos from yesterday,
> > > with PRCo 4145 up on the jacks and the trailer being pulled out so
> > > the shop trucks could be placed.
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/02-DSC_0101.JPG
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> > [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of
> > Phillip Clark Campbell
> > Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 2:49 PM
> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Photo from Yesterday Mr.Lybarger;
> >
> >
> > This 'is' a high-floor car isn't it; watch the last step please!
> > Painted as M cars they seem to lose much of their character; painted
> > for PRC and the camera angle gives 4145 a beautiful if formidable
> > appearance. Living on the interurbans I didn't see these cars much
> > and just have vague recollections of them in the 1940s but none were
> revenue cars at this time.
> >
> > Are the doors a modification of the original by PRC? They look such
> > don't they.
> >
> >
> > Phil
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